‘I think the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, sick people, radical left lunatics,’ Republican candidate tells Fox’s Maria Bartiromo
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“And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military,” he said.
“I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. Not even the people who have come in, who are destroying our country.”
It isn’t clear under what circumstances Trump would view it justifiable to call in US troops against his own countrymen.
But his comments mark a baseless attack and a particularly hollow one coming from someone whose supporters violently attacked the US Capitol in an attempt to stop him from being thrown out of office three years ago.
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“I think the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, sick people, radical
leftlunatics."Yeah Don, we know. They even wear a red hat to help identify themselves.
And again, he plans to follows Hitlers footsteps.
It isn’t clear under what circumstances Trump would view it justifiable to call in US troops against his own countrymen.
Isn’t it though? He would view it justifiable to call them in for literally any reason.
“They brought me a turkeyberder instead of a HAMberder?! Call SEAL Team 6!!”
The media, as usual, talks as if they’re trying to discern his secret, rational plan. Even when he spouts fascist threats of mass oppression and murder, they discuss him as if he’s just another politician with policy proposals. It’s unclear under what circumstances he’d call in troops against Americans because he’s psychologically chaotic, fragile and highly volatile. Anything could trigger him to do so. The only thing that’s consistent is he threatens retribution against immigrants, trans people, Black people, women, and anyone who doesn’t worship him enough.
“dictator day one”
“prosecute my opposition”
“prosecute my critics”
It seems insane to think people are shooting at him because they’re listening to democrats and not because people are just listening to the things he’s saying he’ll do.
It seems insane to think people are shooting at him because they’re listening to democrats
I’m confused by this sentence. What do Democrats have to do with any of this?
Trump has had multiple assassination attempts on him this year, and each time it happens Trump blames Democratic rhetoric as the motivating force.
Of course, anybody who took even a cursory look into the motives of each would-be assassin (and let’s be frank, it’s a big stretch to call some of these guys assassins - getting caught with a loaded weapon near where Trump is located is apparently enough to be considered an assassination attempt, even if Trump was never in any danger) they are often Republicans who absolutely hate the Democrats, so they wouldn’t be listening to their political rhetoric anyway which has been nothing short of “Political violence is not the solution, let’s win at the ballot box in November.”
Meanwhile, Trump is promising to be a dictator on day one, promoting eugenics, deploying the armed forces to deport legal residents, threatening to prosecute and jail his political opponents and revoke the 1st amendment rights of his critics, but refuses to answer calls to “turn the temperature down”.
I don’t know, some republicans think Democrats have something to do with this?
the media line was that democrats were being to mean to trump.
And what should the military do when people storm the capital, Donnie?
This is the collective stupidity of America
It isn’t about Turnip making dumb comments like this or suggesting making fascist government
No
It’s about how America just sits around and listens to all this stupidity and accepts it all as a regular normal part of the political conversation.
And votes for him anyway. This is what they want
So that’s how he plans to make the economy better, to force his opposition to leave the country and appropriate their wealth and property. Who did Nazi that coming?
Didn’t he try to use the military the last time and he was told no? What a psycho.
He might not be told “no” this time, though. He would be CiC, he would be their boss.
Wasn’t he their boss last time?
After being told “no”, he started purging officers that take their constitutional duty seriously.
"I don’t think [immigrants] are the problem in terms of election day,” Trump told Bartiromo. “I think the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, sick people, radical left lunatics.”
At that point, he suggested a seemingly sinister solution.
“And it should be easily handled by, if necessary, by National Guard, or if really necessary, by the military,” he said.
“I think the bigger problem is the enemy from within. Not even the people who have come in, who are destroying our country.”
He’s called Biden a “radical leftist”, it’s anyone who won’t vote for him…
If anyone actually believes Biden is a radical leftist it has to be a combination of a failure of the education system and systemic brainwashing.
looks at his mom
…yeah it’s both. 😒
What are you saying about my mom?
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…how did I never see the resemblance before? It’s uncanny.
You’ve got a user name only a mother could love
Oh she disowned me years ago.
The fact that anyone in America politics is being called a radical leftist is funny.
"I don’t think [immigrants] are the problem in terms of election day,” Trump told Bartiromo. “I think the bigger problem are the people from within, we have some very bad people, sick people, radical left lunatics.”
And yet there are SO many people here on lemmy that seem to think both sides are equally as bad.
Let Trump round them up then. Problem solved.
I don’t see that often.
What I see a lot of is accounts that say Kamala has to be “conservative” on some issues to get votes, but can’t give a valid reason why Kamala sticks with unpopular policy like pro-genocide or pro-fracking.
But she doesn’t take the threat of trump seriously enough to make her want to aide with the platform of her own goddamn party. She like genocide and fracking too much apparently, and it would be cynical to imply it was the donations and not her genuine feelings on the issues
Not a single person is saying she needs to be conservative. You know this.
What people are saying is that she needs to play the centrist game to garner support. It’s a known thing that any candidate that dabbles in “leftists” territory is unelectable. Maybe it’s the stink of delusion and ignorance, or maybe it’s their lack of any semblance of organization.
My guess if asked, is that no one takes their embarrassing “pRo GeNoCiDe” accusations seriously.
You don’t get to threaten candidates with your sad little withheld votes and demand them to kiss your asses while they jump through your single-issue hoop.
That’s not how politics work. It’s not how politics ever worked, and it’s not how politics ever will work.
She’s trying to save democracy. With, or without your help.
Not a single person is saying she needs to be conservative
So why is she for:
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Fracking
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A border wall
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Coninuing support for genocide
People defend her move to the right on those three and more fucking daily…
Like, you think no one is pressuring her into that and she is willing to risk trump by being more conservative than the Dem voter base because she believes in those three things that much?
If you want to “save democracy” you’d be doing anything you can to get her more votes, that means dragging her back left towards the party base.
She keeps going right, and her numbers keep dropping. It ain’t a coinky dink bud
So… since you’re incapable of having a discussion without resorting to accusing people of supporting genocide- I’m going to end this here and flag you as a bad actor.
accusing people of supporting genocide
They say just as it’s announced that the US is sending troops to Israel.
Also, I find you trying to minimize genocide down to something akin to legalizing weed and mocking the OP as a “single issue voter” to be quite abhorrent. If Harris loses the election, it’s going to be in part to disgusting viewpoints such as yours.
Yawn… I’ll be nice to get some peace and quiet come Bo ember when you all vanish- as you do every election.
Be against fracking and lose Pennsylvania.
Genius move there sport. It’s a wonder you aren’t a political consultant.
You’re right. It’s better that we keep pandering to the lowest common denominator time and time again and lose Pennsylvania to something else like a massive hurricane because at least then we can say we won some contests along the way.
Dude. If you are against a modern economy with electricity, don’t be a hypocrite.
Turn off your phone and go outside and sit there by yourself.
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Touch grass. If a Democratic presidential candidate were to come out strongly against Israel prior to Election Day, they will lose.
You need to get a better understanding of the political situation in your own country.
Trump being a lunatic doesn’t automatically make the Democratic party the good guys. We don’t live in a Marvel movie.
Do you live in such a nuance-less world that you automatically assume that if someone is saying that Trump is exponentially worse than Harris- what they really mean is that Harris is the epitome of all things good and can do no wrong?
You should maybe look into fixing that.
And marvel movies are hot garbage. So, I’d never compare anything even capable of being somewhat mediocre with them.
No, but I look at people espousing right-wing beliefs such as yourself and think of how far the Democratic party has fallen and why they struggle to compete against someone like Trump. It’s like you’re in a race with MAGA supporters to see who can destroy the country first.
ROFL…. I’m espousing right wing belief now?
Is everyone that disagrees with you right wing?
Supporting genocide, calling those who don’t support genocide “the radical left”, calling for the US to back out of places like Ukraine for a few examples. All right wing rhetoric and beliefs.
I also noticed you and this other guy prole always seem to follow each other around on lemmy and reply to each other’s comments with similar rhetoric. Kinda funny how that works…
And I noticed that you like to make false accusations of people you know nothing about. Is it accurate to assume that every far left outraged idealist is you? Because you seem to show up a lot where they’re being called out. And your single example is surely enough to base an accusation on.
it’s funny how you jumped on the one thing you believed you could build a strawman out of- I never said anything about Ukraine. In case you’re not aware, America recently sent troops to Israel to help with defense against Iran. I was talking about that-
Most people would have extrapolated this.
Which app is that?
No, but I look at people espousing right-wing beliefs such as yourself
Maybe I don’t know how to read… Where did this person espouse right-wing beliefs? I consider myself pretty far to the left, and everything they said is correct and reasonable.
Thank you.
Well in is obviously the better choice.
What is a Nazi dictator to do but follow his heart.
Soldiers are not obligated to follow unlawful orders…the brass will say “no”.
Til they don’t
How much support is there for Trump in the military though?
I’m worried about the possibility that this kind of rhetoric could lead to an attempted coup or civil war.
Our two party system has been in a civil war over control of us slaves for decades. .
Spoken like a person who had no idea what slavery is .
It may not be slavery by the purest interpretation of the meaning of the word, but what we have is still essentially “do shitty work you hate or starve and die in the street”.
A definition by which most humans that have ever existed have been slaves.
I mean… yeah?
They lean conservative but not Trump. They voted blue in 2020 because the conservatives didn’t really come out to vote for him. They also have very complicated feelings about the Constitution and targeting Americans. So they probably would refrain from getting involved in anything but the most egregious conduct, like the Jan 6th insurrection, until we’re so far down the hole they can’t maintain unit integrity between left and right. At that point you’d probably see about a 60/40 split.
Really depends. In general officers tend to be mixed bag while enlisted soldiers tend to lean Trump.
But it also depends the branch. In my experience most Marines tend to support Trump while the Navy and Airforce is more mixed.
I’m sure you can get some statistics if you look it up. But it’s pretty certain the military leans more conservative than the general population on average.
Unfortunately people as a whole tend to follow orders regardless of their political party or legality. It’s been studied and observed all throughout history
Its not as simple as that though, e.g. that electro shock experiment was rather shaky and subsiquent attempts to replicate it have all but falsified its results.
What you have to do is cherry pick the small group of people that are willing to do awful things, you then get them to do those things in presence of the saner people who then feel guilty by association. After that you can use their lack of action to stop this awful thing as blackmail/guilttrip to get them to do some small awful thing of their own, and then repeat that process to get them to do increasingly awful things until everyone is just as bad as what was originally just a very small subset of that group. Importantly even though they’re doing awful things they still feel bad about it but they’re in too deep, this makes them even more effective than your original psychopaths because they know how they’re likely to be punished should your side loose which makes them fanatical in order to avoid punishment.
Its a tried and tested process but not quite as simple as people just following orders.
We have innocent men being lawfully executed by the state in the current year. How many people in total were involved in those processes without a single one standing up for justice? Our current “liberal” presidential administration hasn’t uttered a single word in opposition to their murders
That’s because that’s what liberals are and that’s what they do. MLK knew this, and spoke on it, and yet for some reason people like to pretend they didn’t hear it.
The officers already told Trump no. And when the National Guard was deployed for BLM protests they actually stuck to their ROE and didn’t deploy force recklessly like the police. Even when the police tried to get the NG in trouble with the people by dressing like them and then telling the NG they might as well.
If the NG was ordered to show up at the polls they would most likely sit in a position a couple hundred meters away where most people won’t see them but they’d be able to respond rapidly. They’d force the governor to be more and more explicit in their orders until they got to an actually illegal one. For example if the NG has been called for law and order they would be under the same restrictions as the police in regards to polling places. (In many states police aren’t allowed to hang out there, they have to vote and leave unless someone specifically calls them and faking a call to get them there could count as election interference.)
I know it’s hard to understand the military mindset from the outside looking in, but I guarantee you it’s not the robotic machine that Hollywood portrays. They are very conscious of their responsibility to the people.
You don’t think Trump will find people to do the job for him? Do you remember them black bagging and abducting people off the street in Portland during BLM? While the NG’s performance was commendable during that turbulent time, I wouldn’t rely on that fact staying true. Also I’m a vet and at least when I was in when we were given orders we weren’t told why we were doing them or given any context for them so in the heat of the moment that’s all you’re going to have to go off of.
This is at a level far above where we dwelled. It’s the guys with stars on their shoulders shielding the troops. And you’re correct, Trump did find willing lackeys, but he found them in Federal Law Enforcement. Most of them came from the Bureau of Prisons. He can’t openly recruit among the military the way he can among federal agents. So I’m pretty sure what will really happen, if he’s elected, is he’ll stand up that group of agents again, equip them heavily and just call them soldiers.
Which is actually straight out of the dictator’s handbook.
Just cause the big guy called Trump a fascist doesnt mean there arent plenty of supporters down the chain of command.
He’s crying.
He’s falling apart and going more batshit as his last-ditch attempt to grab power before crashing permanently.
Maybe, but he could still easily win if enough voters don’t vote.
And yet he has a 50/50 chance of becoming president again.
Sane Americans better go out and vote.
More that he’s trying to stay out of jail.
This is EXACTLY what the Founders Intended! George Washington LITERALLY said that the US Military should be used on US Citizens and that Children should be Gunned Down in School!
This guy in my discord I got into an argument with recently was going on about how he’s voting for Trump because he cares about the constitution. You can’t win with these clowns
George Washington literally led the army against American civilians in the Whiskey Rebellion, so that’s probably not the best example.
Yup, I was there! I remember it well!
And this is exactly why I registered as an independent once Trump hit the scene and I still don’t feel safe with just that. I’m not some big brain smarty-pants, but I could see this piece of shit going full Nazi from a mile away, not to mention the frothing rage Fox news has kept The Base in with regard to anyone on “the left.”
It’s kinda sad to know that there really were only 2 people in our entire country who really would have tried to kill Hitler and one was a damn kid.
