Tax stamps are technically just labels that get applied to a product. That communicates to sellers that the tax has been paid. Cigarette manufacturers are a good example of this. The manufacturer will purchase tax stamp stickers in bulk and apply them to each pack of cigarettes. Often times cartons of cigarettes are stolen before this process. Theoretically a retailer could sell them, but if someone came in and checked for tax stamps they could get in a lot of trouble. So, forging these stickers and applying them to stolen cigarettes allows the thieves to make a profit by selling what appears to be a legitimate product.
I mean sure you can forge the stamp, but the stamp is basically a proof of purchase for your “I don’t have to go to jail over this item” - it’s the associated paperwork and registration of said stamp that matters.
Could it fool a cop or nosy rangemaster? Sure. Will it pass any actual scrutiny when the ATF tries to authenticate? Lol nope.
You show your tax stamp to range safety dudes? Lmfao
If an old Boomer RSO approached me asking to see my tax stamp when I’m shooting my suppressed gun, I would tell them to fuck off because they aren’t an authority to enforce the law; they’re not the ATF, they’re not the FBI, otherwise I could ask to see their social security card. Because they are simply gun safety babysitters, and regular fucking dudes with no real authority other than being allowed by the business owner to ask you to leave.
Me having a tax stamp is literally none of their fucking business.
If they ask? Yes. Because I didn’t go to the range for a dick measuring contest with someone who can eject me for whatever reason they desire. Never gotten heat over a brace or P&W job, but I’m also not trying to catch a trespass charge over ‘muh rights’ argument with a rangemaster.
They do have a valid interest in not being involved in a federal firearms crime on their property. I’ll respect that, and their dumb rapid fire/holstering/etc blanket rules. Sounds like you’re the kind of person those blanket rules were made for.
I have a large enough property that I haven’t shot at a privately owned range in decades, so having a rando come and ask me for my personal tax documents is kinda weird.
If an old Boomer RSO approached me asking to see my tax stamp when I’m shooting my suppressed gun, I would tell them to fuck off because they aren’t an authority to enforce the law
Suppressors require a federal tax stamp from the ATF to purchase, but yeah everything you said is true.
It kinda sounds like he did this with at least the bones of a plan. And aren’t silencers relatively easy to improvise, if you don’t need it to last?
Imagine thinking someone committing a crime obtained their weapons legally. Sure it’s possible but you’re just jumping to conclusions.
Well, legally obtained silencers, for sure. And, tax stamp forgery is big business.
I would like to know more.
Tax stamps are technically just labels that get applied to a product. That communicates to sellers that the tax has been paid. Cigarette manufacturers are a good example of this. The manufacturer will purchase tax stamp stickers in bulk and apply them to each pack of cigarettes. Often times cartons of cigarettes are stolen before this process. Theoretically a retailer could sell them, but if someone came in and checked for tax stamps they could get in a lot of trouble. So, forging these stickers and applying them to stolen cigarettes allows the thieves to make a profit by selling what appears to be a legitimate product.
I mean sure you can forge the stamp, but the stamp is basically a proof of purchase for your “I don’t have to go to jail over this item” - it’s the associated paperwork and registration of said stamp that matters.
Could it fool a cop or nosy rangemaster? Sure. Will it pass any actual scrutiny when the ATF tries to authenticate? Lol nope.
You show your tax stamp to range safety dudes? Lmfao
If an old Boomer RSO approached me asking to see my tax stamp when I’m shooting my suppressed gun, I would tell them to fuck off because they aren’t an authority to enforce the law; they’re not the ATF, they’re not the FBI, otherwise I could ask to see their social security card. Because they are simply gun safety babysitters, and regular fucking dudes with no real authority other than being allowed by the business owner to ask you to leave.
Me having a tax stamp is literally none of their fucking business.
If they ask? Yes. Because I didn’t go to the range for a dick measuring contest with someone who can eject me for whatever reason they desire. Never gotten heat over a brace or P&W job, but I’m also not trying to catch a trespass charge over ‘muh rights’ argument with a rangemaster.
They do have a valid interest in not being involved in a federal firearms crime on their property. I’ll respect that, and their dumb rapid fire/holstering/etc blanket rules. Sounds like you’re the kind of person those blanket rules were made for.
I have a large enough property that I haven’t shot at a privately owned range in decades, so having a rando come and ask me for my personal tax documents is kinda weird.
No, but they can remove you from the range…
Wait time is like a month if you have it in your own name, 3ish if using a trust.
The “extra background check” really isn’t any more indepth than the one for buying a gun either.
Silencer by no means implies this was a professional hit. Lots of people have em these days just for the hell of it
Huh. Tax stamps must have really changed. It used to be a 7 month wait, minimum, when I was dealing with them.