Also the patriarchy is involved, but my comment was already long enough. (And I didnt mention how nobody seems to talk about the victims in any of this).

Yes, and some people when they are reasonably new to discovering stuff like this go a little bit crazy. I had somebody in my bsky mentions who just went full conspiracy theory nut (in the sense of weird caps usage, lot of screenshots of walls of texts, stuff that didn’t make sense) about Yarvin (also because I wasn’t acting like them they were trying to tell me about Old Moldy, but in a way that made me feel they wanted me to stand next to them on a soapbox and start shouting randomly). I told them acting like a crazy person isn’t helping, and I told them they are preaching to the choir. Which of course got me a block. (cherfan75.bsky.social btw, not sure if they toned down their shit). It is quite depressing, literally driving themselves crazy.

And because people blindly follow people who follow them these people can have quite the reach.

Starting to get a bit worried people are reinventing stuff like qanon and great evil man theory for Epstein atm. (Not a dig at the people here, but on social media I saw people go act like Epstein created /pol/, lootboxes, gamergate, destroyed gawker (did everyone forget that was Thiel? Mad about how they outed him?) etc. Like only Epstein has agency).

The lesson should be the mega rich are class conscious, dumb as hell, and team up to work on each others interests and dont care about who gets hurt (see how being a pedo sex trafficker wasnt a deal breaker for any of them).

Sorry for the unrelated rant (related: they also got money from Epstein, wonder if that was before or after the sparkling elites article, which was written a few months after Epsteins conviction, june vs sept (not saying those are related btw, just that the article is a nice example of brown-nosing)), but this was annoying me, and posting something like this on bsky while everyone is getting a bit manic about the contents of the files (which seems to not contain a lot of Trump references suddenly) would prob get me some backlash. (That the faked elon rejection email keeps being spread also doesnt help).

I am however also reminded of the Panama papers. (And the unfounded rumors around Marc Dutroux how he was protected by a secret pedophile cult in government, this prob makes me a bit more biasses against those sorts of things).

Sorry had to get it off my chest, but yes it is all very stupid, and I wish there were more consequences for all the people who didnt think his conviction was a deal breaker. (Et tu Chomsky?).

E: note im not saying Yud didnt do sex crimes/sexual abuse. Im complaining about the ‘everything is Epstein’ conspiracy I see forming.

For an example why this might be a problem: https://bsky.app/profile/joestieb.bsky.social/post/3mdqgsi4k4k2i Joy Gray is ahead of the conspiracy curve here (as all conspiracy theories eventually lead to one thing).

“He’s like, ‘I’m just going to give everything to AI. So send me whatever you have.’”

And thats another security flaw.

Lot of hitler particles in this one.

A long time ago I heard a story of some guy arrested here in .nl and they also got his porn collection (which was big at the time, several gigs of images! (to give an indication of how long ago it was)), and it also included some child porn, not because he was hunting for that, but just because he had downloaded everything he could find and some of it were csam images.

What this makes me wonder about is if it is something like this, and if it is, just how much porn did they ingest? I know people have mentioned these things can recreate marvel movies without problems, but would they also be able to recreate whole porn movies? Has anybody tested that?

Yep, I have not paid attention to them using these words correctly, but considering how they treat the other rules of Rationalism more as guidelines anyway, I’m gonna guess no.

But compared to an actual ‘here is yall speaking like evil robots, stop that’ article it is lacking. Which is good, as that is our territory. ;).

Get well soon, yeah, I follow some people on bsky who have different opinions on Covid, and even there it is bad. (Doesn’t help than the one real expert I follow who mentions that ‘Covid is over’ (to massively oversimplify his points) treats any concern that it isn’t over as if people are antivaxxers and anti science, I don’t want to get involved, but several times I was close to replying ‘you are quite strawmanning their position and reading things into what they are saying which they are not’ but that would just get me blocked/called a covid truther or something so why bother).

Finally read Greg Egan - Permutation City, and looked at the LW discussion on the book, and I feel like they missed a lot of things (and why are they talking about the ‘dust theory’ like it is real). Oof, the wikipedia page on the themes and settings has a similar problem however. It is like they all ignored the second half of the book and the themes contained within it, not one mention of the city being called Elysium for example.

And of course Zack_M_Davis thinks the plotline of the guy who killed the drug dealer (not a sex worker/prostitute lw people, please the text makes this pretty clear) he was in a lowkey romantic relationship with should have been cut (also not mentioned on the wikipedia page iirc).

Also, nobody seems to talk about the broken sewage pipe.

Tbh, this is pretty convincing, I agree a lot more with parts of the LW space now. (Just look at the title, the content isn’t that interesting).

I really wonder how many of the vibe coders get into vibe coding because after decades of writing code they simply hate the work. But they for some reason do not want to do a career change.

Training your chatbot on the outputs of other chatbots. What could go wrong. (In addition to the nazi ideological bent of grok).

TPOT seems to be having a civil war as Eigenrobot is defending the shooting. Somebody also dropped a possible dox on eigenrobot.

I assume that awful.systems can’t be taken down due to linking to doxes in the same way that r/sneerclub could have.

He didn’t have time to assemble the prototype before leaving for Switzerland, so he took a Patagonia duffel bag stuffed with motherboards, loose wire, and a box of tools and finished building the device in his Davos hotel room.

That this is even possible is quite something, that he didn’t even think about how stupid this would look is also amazing, he will go far as a tech ceo.

“These wires, c4, and plutonium? I need them for my tech prototype”

Fun detail I once heard, if you take a block of Brunost with you on an airplane, you might get into trouble because the scanners think it is c4.

I read that in the voice of the Lord of the rings Orc general.

“The era of man is over, the age of the chatbot is here”

So, are CEO’s more vulnerable to this sort of stuff or not? I’d figure not really having much to do as a higher up CEO (as in, you don’t have a real boss telling you all the TPS reports need to be done by Tuesday) but compared to people who are unemployed and don’t feel the pressure to do busywork to justify their salary this might be a big risk for them. As a chatbot will never go 'sorry boss, I love this conversation, but I need to get to work on those TPS reports).

In part the self promotion is also what Scott is doing here, look at him going ‘see how diverse and thoughtful our community is’, this sort of reactions to comments is also quite easy content. And jesus fuck is it long (while not actually saying anything new it seems, I have not read it all but oof).

Wonder if that was because it basically broke containment (still was not widely spread, but I have seen it at a few places, more than normal lw stuff) and went after one of their enemies (And people swallowed it uncritically, wonder how many of those people now worry about NRx/Yarvin and don’t make the connection).

That was a hard read.

For example, SaintParamaribo writes:

You should have steelmanned S.Adams more, and be more generous to the guy. He JUST died. He actually recommended your blog. He was a mentor to many of us. (emph mine)

That is just crazy. Small detail, I used to read his blog as ‘look at this crazy guy’ entertainment (I actually read the orgasm hypnosis when it came out), but I had to stop cause his bullshit stupid stuff was making me angry. (That a lot of themotte guys looked up to him was one of the many reasons I thought very low of that place)

The compromise I worked out with myself was to let myself publish, as long as it ended on an overall positive note and emphasized his good qualities.

And this is why the whole SSC style project is so doomed, everything is fine if you also say nice words.

Anyway, if I had heard that Scott Adams recommended my posts as insightful I would have walked into the sea. Even more so if I considered myself a Rationalist, the guys big project was to break down peoples trust in consensus reality by his bullshit, he literally was against what people claim Rationalism should be, he believed in the secret ffs.

His interest in persuasion was teaching people when others were doing it to them, not teaching them to do it to others. His interest in Trump was Trump doing it BACK at the media, not on his poor voters.

[Scott Alexanders reaction is basically: no he was trying to teach people persuasion]

Lol no, his reasons for doing all that was self promotion. Positioning himself as the wise expert. Gullible fools, arguing about what the real intentions of the wallet inspector.