You’re missing the point. I’m not defending them. Their actions are abhorrent andtheir victims deserve justice. I’m suggesting if we act aggressively towards these self reporters, you will actually INCREASE the number of molested children by disuading future self reporting from others.
I’m trying to decrease the number of victims. I don’t know how to give the victims justice, but decreasing future victims is paramount.
And you’re missing the point of what we’re talking about. Right now, the law allows active child molesters to execute well known religious loophole, where they “confess” their crimes to an unaccounted guy from religious organisation, and this act makes the crime nonexistent according to their proposed worldview. What it actually does, is that it clears the guilt from the perpetrator, allowing him to continue his acts. Knowing history of Catholic church, if it does anything is that it allows child molesters to exchange experiences and tips for future crimes.
Removing all oversight from this process increases the amount of crime going on, and that’s what you’re advocating for.
The point of letting people who didn’t act on their urges to get psychological help they need to continue not act on it, is obviously correct opinion you have. It’s just it doesn’t apply here.
We might have to agree to disagree. Happily we agree that the kids are the most important thing here. I think if we had a solid counseling setup for people this would be an obvious thing, and you are correct that it should be a mandatory reporting. Until we do, I’m seeing this more as a free version of mental Healthcare which I don’t think should be impeded.
This is the only point of this conversation, you agree with it, and yet you continue arguing with the point that you agree on.
Priests don’t do mental health counseling, even if they try, and when they try they bring harm where help should be, but even if they did help, this law, that we all arguing for, would’ve not impede with this, it only required mandatory reporting of instances of child abuse.
You’re missing the point. I’m not defending them. Their actions are abhorrent andtheir victims deserve justice. I’m suggesting if we act aggressively towards these self reporters, you will actually INCREASE the number of molested children by disuading future self reporting from others.
I’m trying to decrease the number of victims. I don’t know how to give the victims justice, but decreasing future victims is paramount.
And you’re missing the point of what we’re talking about. Right now, the law allows active child molesters to execute well known religious loophole, where they “confess” their crimes to an unaccounted guy from religious organisation, and this act makes the crime nonexistent according to their proposed worldview. What it actually does, is that it clears the guilt from the perpetrator, allowing him to continue his acts. Knowing history of Catholic church, if it does anything is that it allows child molesters to exchange experiences and tips for future crimes.
Removing all oversight from this process increases the amount of crime going on, and that’s what you’re advocating for.
The point of letting people who didn’t act on their urges to get psychological help they need to continue not act on it, is obviously correct opinion you have. It’s just it doesn’t apply here.
We might have to agree to disagree. Happily we agree that the kids are the most important thing here. I think if we had a solid counseling setup for people this would be an obvious thing, and you are correct that it should be a mandatory reporting. Until we do, I’m seeing this more as a free version of mental Healthcare which I don’t think should be impeded.
Yes, we need better.
This is the only point of this conversation, you agree with it, and yet you continue arguing with the point that you agree on.
Priests don’t do mental health counseling, even if they try, and when they try they bring harm where help should be, but even if they did help, this law, that we all arguing for, would’ve not impede with this, it only required mandatory reporting of instances of child abuse.