As conservatives cheer.
My neighbor is blasting Tool and singing along, poorly. Let’s go ahead and collapse this already. I’m tired.
One great big festering neon distraction
I’ve a suggestion to keep you all occupied
do these absolute buffoons not know how important my crude portfolio is?
Right!? I mean there’s still money to be made, FFS!
This planet needs to work on respecting your money more! Can’t these stupid rainforests stop dying?
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Ok, so I am all about working to resolve climate change, very active in the movement even.
But gosh golly gee, can we talk about that particular websites UI for a moment? I do not need a roll ad every 3 seconds. And I really do not need to know that one weird trick on how to get rats to like me.
Again, all for the climate. I’m saying this as I just walked 45 minutes to go grab my lunch. Totally on board with more buses and trains. Big advocate of a Citizens Climate Lobby. Doing my part, hope you do too.
Keep the rats the f away from me!
The more data processing your computer does, and the more information served from elsewhere, the worse the use of electricity, and therefore the carbon footprint.
It’s all a little extra press on the scales in order to ensure things end just that little bit quicker.
We’re in a hostage situation, and the captors own the government.
Meh. I respectfully disagree. This is the system we designed. It’s working exactly as intended. What we need is a sea change. The system is broken and that’s evident everywhere. The path we are on doesn’t work. The only way to course correct is for everyone to get on the same page and as is witnessed during the yearly COP meetings clearly the rich nations don’t fully care about the poor countries. Things are changing but dreadfully slow.
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Please just do it already
I know right? The faster shit gets really really bad, the faster people will (hopefully) start building homemade guillotines.
We have to hope things get better, because no matter how bad things get, they can always get worse. People will see things getting worse as evidence that it hasn’t gotten worse enough. The idea that there is some point where it can get bad enough to spur positive change is false. The positive change that has happened in society originates from people wanting things to get better.
We have to convince people to want things to get better, by showing them it can be better. Too many people are worried about losing the little they have. People have to see we can all be living more complete lives without harming the planet.
We don’t have any evidence to suggest it will get better. I’m also not really sure what you mean by “more complete lives.” That’s gotta be subjective, right? I don’t think I’m an accelerationist though, I think I’m just against human life period.
We don’t have any evidence to suggest it will get better.
We know how to make things better. We need to get off fossil fuels and capitalism. Hoping it will get worse won’t work. It will just get worse. People have made things better before. We are living in the success of optimistic activists who believed they could make the world a better place. We need to do the same.
I’m also not really sure what you mean by “more complete lives.”
How about making more money. Eating food and breathing air that doesn’t kill us. Working for ourselves and not billionaires. Having third spaces where people can be a part of a community, instead of being isolated.
I’m just against human life period.
This is literally the root of the flawed ideologies of our time. I implore you to reconsider. We are all in this together.
It all sounds great for sure, and I’d love it. But I just don’t think it’s realistic
Not with that attitude. We know how to implement socialism while maintaining a market economy and how to improve our democracy to achieve majority rule. All of it is logistically doable and well understood. What we need is the political will to do it.
Yeah that’s the part I don’t think is realistic, but who knows, it could happen.
Personally I’d prefer any way that doesn’t shovel the less abled and less privileged into the Accelerationism Machine as fuel.
If you still have hope that humanity will stop destroying (the human habitability of) our only habitat in the name of short-term private profit for humanity’s most prolific sociopaths, at least share the kind of drugs you’re on.
“LINE MUST GO UP!”
-Homo Sapien, ~200,000 BCE - ~2100 AD
Well since there’s nothing I can do then I guess it’s time to kick back and wait for the end of humanity. We had a good run.
You can and you should (and you probably already do).
Kick back and know that you’re doing something, whatever it is.
Nicely said.
And even if we could do a bit more, why should we make more sacrifices, when big corporations are accountable for much of the environment’s issues?
Why would a couple of fossile destroyers change their very lucrative business-model if millions of first world citizens are just as cheap, greedy and irresponsible as well? I’m pretty sure a lot of us would act very much like them, if we were put in their places. It’s so easy to point fingers at the billionaires. As long as they don’t change, why should I?! To be a better person, that’s why! Fuck those psychopaths, stop consuming!
“live a shittier, lower quality life for no reason because you’re fucked anyways” why though? An environment sounds great, but it’s obviously not in the cards for us. Why purposely have a worse life? HedonismBot could teach us a thing or two tbh, if we’re gonna burn the earth to a crisp anyways might as well have fun, no?
me when i destroy the planet to get just 1 more green piece of paper that means jack shit in the grand scheme of things
genuinely think money is an addiction to these big oil fucks
It’s a way of keeping score. They don’t care where the money comes from any more, just that they have more than some other guy.
People who care about people generally don’t get rich, because they are kind and helpful people and will spend money on others.
if we exceed the 1.5°C warming target set by the Paris Agreement.
Pretty sure previous studies have already confirmed we’re already blowing past 2°C even if we stopped producing CO2 today.
Not to be too doomer about it but we’re already too late to prevent centuries of damage. What we can do now is try and keep the ecosystem from becoming completely uninhabitable.
Not to be pedantic, but the target is a ten year trailing average. It’s a crime that we’ve likely hit it for a year or two already, and that shows how urgent the problem is but we’ve still got 5 years or so
Even worse carbon emissions haven’t yet peaked, much less started dropping, and way less quickly than they need to drop
That’s not really how that works. The 2°C increase is a prediction of how average temperatures will increase based on already existing carbon in the atmosphere.
If we stop emitting today, the average temperature will still increase beyond 2°C and stay there unless there’s another force actively removing the CO2 from the atmosphere.
This isn’t “if we stop emitting today, we’ll peak at 2°C increase and then it’ll go back down” the 2°C prediction is a permanent increase to the average temperature.
The damage is done. Millions will likely die regardless of how much carbon we put out from this point forward. The fight now is to decrease the people that will die beyond that number.
Those extra years don’t mean anything though. It’s the target that matters. Just because 10 years was predicted doesn’t mean we can do whatever we want in this 10 years as long as it fixed right before that mark.
10 year average was the target definition. Not only does this not mean we can sit on our asses, but it also does NOT mean we have nine lives left
I’m just hoping to be able to travel a little bit and see the world before there’s nothing left.
Really wish there was a way to block this kind of stuff from all my feeds. I already know this, and there is nothing I can do to stop it from happening, so I really don’t want to see it.
Sell your car. Stop eating meat. Go to city council meetings and push for bike lanes.
And that still won’t do shit when a company like ExxonMobil produces more pollution in a single year than thousands of people will in an entire lifetime. Don’t sit here and act like anything I do will make a difference just because it makes you feel better.
It will cause at least one less gram to be emitted. You said nothing, but what you can do isn’t nothing. It’s just not much. But this is the survival of all life on earth we’re talking about.
Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot, it’s not going to get better. It’s not.
Dr. Seuss was ahead of his time
We have millions of people who care, and even if every single one of us produced a carbon neutral footprint(which isn’t possible for everyone) it still wouldn’t stop what’s coming at this point. It would slow it down but not stop it because 100 companies are responsible for 71% of all greenhouse gasses, and only 25 companies and state owned orgs are responsible for over 50% of the global industrial emissions. Without stopping them, you are throwing an icecube on a forest fire.
Hell, the top 1% of co2 producers produce 1000 times more than the bottom 1% which is you and me.
So buy one more day for us to have a revolution and end the pollution. If you have 1/100000000000000 the power of an oil CEO, and you still use that power polluting the environment for your own convenience, then what makes you better than them? That you would theoretically have done less damage if only your actions mattered a little more?
If you want a revolution, then you need to get their hands bloody, and people are not willing to do that. I don’t blame them I’m not willing to either.
Well I am. I’m participating in mutual aid and direct action orgs with the aim of assembling an apparatus for distributing weapons and committing insurrection against the government. Also I don’t drive a car or eat meat. My behaviours are designed to stop climate change at every level of action. You won’t engage in individual action, and you won’t engage in collective action, so what’s your big idea? Giving up? No thanks.
I am. I suspect I’m not alone.
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Did you know you agree with the “hippie”?
Those things are helpful and nice, but they aren’t even close to enough. As long as conservatives hold any power, billionaires and corporations will continue to cook the planet. To combat global heating, we must combat conservatism.
Buy a gun. Participate in direct action and protests. Help organise mutual aid structures. Spread class consciousness. Assassinate a conservative politician. Storm the capital.
I didn’t list these things earlier because they require a bigger commitment than being carfree or vegan. I wanted to start with the easy stuff.
I like the cut of your jib.
There is something you can do. You can get into and support climate activism.
Right, that worked back in the day but it doesn’t work now because Republicans, conservatives, and people who own those people don’t care about saving the planet and don’t care about real actual science anymore. They will flatbout refuse to listen to facts, reason, and logic, so it’s impossible to have actual real conversations with them. If that stuff still worked, then we would already be working on trying to reverse what is happening, and we would be passing laws and issuing fines in the billions to companies like Exxon and BP.
Think about it. If we had the hole in the ozone right now instead of in the 80s there is absolutely no fucking way they would have passed the laws to fix it and the same goes for all the acid rain we had. If you think that stuff works, then please sell me whatever copium you have cuz christ could I use some.
Agreed. If we aren’t fighting conservatism, we aren’t fighting climate change.
Conservatives are the army of the billionaires. Global heating will continue until conservatism is defeated. There is simply no way around this.
Repression against climate activism is (in my view) at an all-time high with movements even labeled as terrorists and a certain part of the populace agreeing with injuring or even killing members of climate activist groups. Not something I’d want to put myself into. :/
This is wild, the exact same discussion with the exact opposite upvotes would happen in the progressivepolitics community.
But to the point about “not being able to do anything” that’s just not true. Is it singularly enough to reverse or accelerate climate change? No, but that’s not the question is it. Anything is anything. Can you do anything? Yes.
The answer is Yes. So please do. You’re walking instead of driving? Eating less meat? Good. There you go - no need to crawl into a hole and die, you’re doing something. It’s not nothing. It’s good.
Even with appliances or vehicles: if you’re going to buy one anyway, you can choose increased efficiency and you’ve done something, no matter how small.
I can honestly say that I believe, checks notes, that tinfoil hats will help you with this issue!
One can only hope actual intelligence rises from the ashes of the failed experiment of humanity.
That’s what we said last time.
You some sort of ancient sentient dinosaur or something?
Not that anyone knows, no.
Companies and billionaires when the only thing they care about are multicoloured laminated pieces of paper that basically mean nothing once someone’s wealth is high enough:
