Summary
Elon Musk’s frequent presence at Mar-a-Lago and his involvement in sensitive conversations have raised concerns among Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.
Musk’s push for influence, including voicing policy ideas and taking credit for Trump’s win, has raised concerns about his motives and loyalty.
Useful idiot has served his limited purpose.
who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting
… that’s one way to put it.
Over assertively impregnates employees as a hobby
Offers his sperm for colonizing Mars, aiming to upgrade said hobby
One can only hope.
Oh man, I would love to see Musk be the first purged from his administration. Maybe he will take the hint and stay out of the public eye after Trumpers turn on him.
Maybe he will take the hint and stay out of the public eye after Trumpers turn on him.
Do you really believe that? I have a hard time even imagining something like that. He loves himself waaaay too much to do this. Being hated seems to be some kind of achievement for him and he’s proud of it.
No, of course not… But if other people on here can dream about a future where the political makeup of Congress matters, or where an actual progressive party can organize and survive, then I can dream too.
Elon Musk is a once in a generation business leader
That’s not a compliment, that’s a prerequisite to becoming everything Musk currently is. If “a generation” of people had been afforded even one percent of the privilege he’s received, Musk would’ve been outshined by more competent people long ago.
Trump’s longstanding advisers, who view Musk as overly assertive and self-promoting.
Sounds like “trumps longstanding advisors” are worried they did all this work to get trump in power to use him are seeing musk come in and begin to use trump instead of them.
He’ll have them sign something saying they were never advisors at all and he was there from the start.
Pretty much. His advisors have quietly expressed “concern” to the media about a lot of things, and they go nowhere.
Every once in a while, it does. Laura Loomer seems to have been forgotten. That might just be Trump getting bored with sleeping with her, though.
I can only pray that they all tear each other to shreds.
People should be afraid of musk. He’s gone completely mad with power. He doesn’t have to BE the president to be the hand in the puppet. Trump would be difficult to control, but whoever follows trump will be hand-picked.
Honestly, once Trump gets sworn in, I assume the people around him who want to implement Project 2025 won’t have any more use for him. That’s why Vance is there, just look at his track record, he knows how to play ball.
I’m pretty sure a little over half of the conservatives hate Musk just as much as the left does. He painted himself as a victory factor when in reality he’s just a liability. Conservatives don’t like the reminder that Trump got less votes this time that in 2020, and I like to say Elon is why.
Elon almost certainly earned votes for Trump by
- Funding a shit ton of election ads
- Using Twitter to push propaganda
I begrudgingly have to concede and acknowledge that you are correct. That being said, he still did so indirectly as his name and ugly fucking face weren’t attached to those.
I suspect Musk’s welcome is as long as his chequebook. I think trump sees the $, if his “advisors” are offering him less $ I doubt Trump cars to listen.
The only issue might be if any of it could be proven to be criminal bribery - that seems unlikely though.
Trump is literally and figuratively immune against any prosecution. He raped children, stole and killed millions.
I am no American, but at this point I think he could produce and distribute CP right in the oval office and nothing would happen. And that is the one thing next to murder, he didn’t already commit publicly.
He’s an accelerationist. He knows the death of America is coming and wants to be sitting pretty, real close to the top when it happens; so he can use his money to become king.
He can’t pretend to save the world if the world isn’t ending.
Dude literally thinks he’s Ozymandias from Watchmen. His entire existence is so fucking cringe.
Which is several layers of stupid, seriously most of the time when empires collapse the ones in power are either remains of the old bureaucracy or warlords. The rich are usually a non factor unless they already fit into one of the previous two situations. None of the billionaires have enough hard power to pull that off in the long term.
I’m hungry and Elon looks nice and plump.
Fucking gross.
I agree. We shouldn’t eat the rich. We should beat the rich. Repeatedly and for great lengths of time. Possibly with spiky objects. I’m sure we can beat the rich out of them if we keep at it long enough. It might take years and years, but if we just keep beating the rich…
Let the infighting begin! Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic “vie for the king’s attention” atmosphere.
I wonder how many mooches he’ll last.
Trump hires the worst people and creates a toxic “vie for the king’s attention” atmosphere.
Now thats a mutually assured destruction scenario I’d be in favor of.
Maybe we can help it along by stomaching a little tactical truth social posting
Donald “I have the record for the most people fired from a cabinet” Trump? He only hires the best people!
And the record most cabinet convictions
Yup! Weirdly Trump’s own worst qualities also tend to neuter his ability to deal damage somewhat (only somewhat! Goddamn is the man just a pandimensional wrecking ball). He attracts some of the very worst people, but then he chews through them for whatever purpose he had in mind for them, and then invariably even those people leave his orbit and go “wow everyone, that guy really is a piece of shit”. Pretty incredible stuff.
Similarly, his only actual ambition is personal greed, specifically his own wealth and fame. There’s no ideology or barely even planning in him I don’t think. Pretty sure his life is really best described as just the series of the nastiest, most self-serving moves he could think of at each moment along the way, with zero purpose except his own enrichment, both in dollars and fame/what he probably perceives as “power”.
Of course what he seems to see as power or something desirable, everyone not trapped in his S-tier narcissism distortion field sees as just him stating the terms of his own manipulation to whomever wants to take advantage, for mutual benefit. Right in the open. But sure, he’s the tough talker we need on the world stage, lol. Amazing. Sorry, just realized I have reached full tangent mode now, I regret nothing but I’ll end my rant heh.
This is all very true - I’m just hoping he hasn’t learned from last time about how to effect change in government. Unfortunately it seems like those around him are just more sycophantic than last time. One thing he has learned is “who is loyal” which could be a problem…
Yeah, I hear that. I do think his extreme narrow focus is a legitimate and severe neurodivergence, he’s not going to like…stop being that way, ever, to any degree. It’s how his mind is shaped I think, he doesn’t even enjoy music, laughter, actual human warmth, even just alcohol, all things broadly considered to be the most human things. There’s no room for anything but his bizarrely narrow drive.
Whether there are people in his orbit who have learned dangerous things is a more troubling question, one we can only really hope is tempered by his unique extreme toxicity (and hopefully in this case the massive inertia of all the many people in branches of govt who’ve made that their career and have a personal interest in the status quo).
Regardless of how many loyalists he has he’ll get in the way of himself along with some Republicans in the senate, Democrats using the filibuster and the right wing media will get him to change his mind. 2 years isn’t a lot to make all of these changes before the democrats at least take back the House
Trump is not someone who likes to share the stage.
Oh please let Trump’s first dictatorial move be to strip Elon of his wealth. We’re all going to suffer some shit but let at least one oligarch stuffer too
It can start by denaturalizing him since he lied on his immigration forms and was in the country illegally when he first came here. That’s not even dictatorial, it’s the letter of the law.
“First they came for the Oligarchs and I did not speak out - because I was not an Oligarch, and really because wage inequality is the core problem facing our society so coming for the Oligarchs seemed like a pretty good idea to me.”
And piss off all the all the billionaires? Not going to happen.
It’s not to piss them off, but to send a message. Just like Putin, he’s going to put the screws to somebody wealthy to send the message “I did it to them, I can do it to you.”
You do realize that all the billionaires don’t have the same motives. A lot of billionaires would love to get rid of some of their peers.
Would be next to impossible to wound the king billionaire without negatively affecting the others.
The only redeeming feature of this whole sorry mess will be watching those hyaenas constantly tearing each other apart.
Looks like we’ll be bringing back Mooches as a measure of political tenure soon.
If it happens fast enough we can have an Elon as a smaller unit.
People don’t understand, they both speak the same language. They’re both natural grifters… What’s more Musk is probably better at it than Trump was. Trump needed lessons from Roy Cohn, who was a ruthless, damaged, low empathy, closet homosexual and self-hater.
Musk didn’t need that kind of mentor, he’s a natural grifter, and my bet is that Trump is fascinated by him. They do similar things in different ways.
Only in certain scenarios would this blow up, and Musk has already bent the knee to Trump, so those scenarios are unlikely.
Musk is a friendly fellow grifter Trump can use, and has power over, which is what Trump likes.
At best we’ll see Musk become a fall guy for Trump’s shortcomings. But seeing as Trump may later die in office, Musk might also avoid such a fate. Only time will tell.
Based on the pictures Elon thinks he owns Trump. This is going to be fun.
Considering Trump’s ego all the people would have to do is start sharing #muskownsdonald on social media for him to kick him off the ticket
