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  • Github is probably the biggest code hosting platform. There is literally no evidence that Microsoft will discontinue it… And they’ve spent a huge amount of time integrating it. It also generates 1 billion in revenue, so why would Microsoft sell it? Furthermore, its free for open source…

    Self hosting is part of the reason our project failed… We wasted a lot of time with that stuff. We used Mercurial, whatever the Canonical one was, and git, and we wasted a lot of time.

    Github works, and is well integrated to everything


  • So… just to repeat myself for the 300th time

    This is a good example of why people use GitHub

    Because it’s an advantage that it’s hosted by a large company like Microsoft. There’s very little chance it’s going to be shut down or sold off. So developers don’t need to worry about their infrastructure as much

    One of our projects failed because we got caught up in infrastructure.

    It’s funny though how the people who are the most vocal against GitHub aren’t responding to this post. But they’re happy to make the biggest deal about every little button on it…





  • Err… Those are bad examples.

    Skype was bad before microsoft lol. If anything, Microsoft actually made it more usable… Skype was NEVER good lol

    And very few people in the real world have an issue with Github. The evidence is that you’ll notice projects aren’t moving away from it, and Github is growing fast. I found there’s a small number of people making 99.99% of the noise (like the first main “enshiffication” post on Lemmy, which was mainly pointing towards comments made by a developer without many commits and as a open source project, they weren’t even paying for github). If you want a good example, Sourceforge would be a better one (although, it’s possible even they cleaned up their act)

    Nobody would call VS Code bloated or anything. There are some things I don’t like, but i have tried so many IDE’s in the past 20 years, and can honestly say that VS Code survived because its hugely easier, and it’s actually a high quality product. Anyone who has tried stuff like Atom or Eclipse will attest to that (Eclipse was great at the time, but was painfully slow)

    I did see a post about a rust one upcoming that did seem interesting, but its really just a slightly faster version of VS Code (and VS Code itself is no slouch).








  • Yes… Similarly, there are lots of browsers that failed too… KHTML for instance is what Chrome and safari was based off…

    They have a huge number of projects they tried… Including their own mobile phone OS which they were actively shipping (it’s a pity it didn’t survive, would have been nice to have a 3rd OS)

    It’s really a risk / time payoff here. The reality is, when you see projects like this, there are 20 more which fail.

    When you have limited resources, things like Firefox VPN actually make sense, because its low risk (there’s a lot of competitors, but its fast to implement).

    An office suite takes a huge amount of resources, and is a lot of work.

    VPN’s do have their uses. But, I agree… 99% of it is scum marketing


  • Yeah. Maybe I’m just old (I’m 40).

    I would be happy to donate. But, the reality is… donations don’t work in my experience. One of my projects went FrontPage on all the major tech sites (and even was mentioned in Linux format magazine).

    I got $300 in donations.

    $250 was from a person I knew…

    Backend projects often get screwed more, and I guess you probably need to hope you get supported by companies like Redhat ultimately. This may be why in my case. But backend projects always have people dissing them (frontend projects just need to look good and markety)

    I think what’s more important is that it’s open source to be honest. We’re actually lucky we still have Mozilla honestly.

    In Mozilla browser days (after Netscape), id imagine it would have been a struggle to get a good pay. The people still there I suspect took a massive risk, and could have moved to lots of other companies like Google instead quite easily

    I think they deserve to get rewarded…


  • What have you checked out or audited specifically?

    In the open source projects I started and worked with, nobody really helped. In fact, one of ours was a fork of a commercial open source project. Ironically enough, if they were closed source they would have survived Longer…

    DevFS was a core Linux component. And nobody wanted to maintain it, so it got depreciated before a replacement was even available (udev eventually, but it was totally unusable at the time).

    Are you using openbsd? That is fully audited apparently

    Everyone talks about looking at the code, but in practice, it’s disappointing most people don’t. I wish this wasn’t true.

    The best Access points on the market are not fully open source I’m fairly sure. But the best Access points have a lot of developers who ensure qa on your behalf

    What matters is the resources put towards it. A lot of high end routers have full service contracts that guarantee security and support.

    Just because something is open source, especially if it’s embedded hardware, doesn’t mean it’s easy to debug and recompile.


  • Rich guy?

    Presumably that is about Mitchell Baker… A woman… who was there since the beginning when the company was failing…

    The new CEO is also a woman and a temp CEO, who I’m guessing will again be replaced by an existing employee. Which guy are you referring to?

    What browser projects are you assisting with or donating to?

    Are you assisting with any open source projects at all?

    The biggest problem with the oss community is that as a developer, you need to accept always that you’ll get treated like absolute dirt by the community.

    One of my projects went FrontPage on many major Linux sites, and I ended up dropping it because I got tired of the abuse.

    You’ll get plenty of people contributing nothing to your project or competing ones, but they’ll tell you the 50 different ways you suck

    I donated back when Firefox was in beta. They were a dying company back then.

    Are you saying open source developers shouldn’t be rewarded at all?