It sounds like, essentially what you’re saying, I think. That if your mother lied or omitted information that would have led to a denial of her citizenship approval, and this is later discovered she will have her citizenship revoked, and you would also lose citizenship. Essentially because it would be considered that she committed fraud to obtain citizenship, and you by extension would be a benefactor of her fraud even if you were unaware of it.

However,it also sounds like if her citizenship is revoked for other reasons not involving fraudulent statements and covering up a past that would have barred her from citizenship, you will keep your citizenship providing you are in the US when hers is revoked.

That’s my very rough reading of it, and yeah, it’s a bunch of fucking legalese. It’s honestly frustrating that laws like this don’t have a “simple english wikipedia” equivalent to explain it to non-lawyers.

Also… it should be noted that laws seemingly mean nothing with respect to the current US regime and how they manage citizenship revocation.

Well for one she’s a physicist, not a biologist or psychologist, and you can find plenty of threads online where people are pointing out that she is cherry picking her data, and seems to pretend that numerous other studies on the subject simply don’t exist.

Also, the person I originally responded to claimed:

She does it for the field is theoretical physics, the field she knows.

Well, shocker, she totally does it for other shit she has no relevant background in, like transgender studies, and feels like she has all the knowledge at her fingertips while conveniently ignoring other research.

I don’t need to watch it to understand that conflating academia with communism is fuck-stupid and that privatizing science is a fuck-stupid solution to academia’s very real problems.

Also other folks here are pointing out she rejects science she doesn’t like when it comes to transgender science, for example.

As I said elsewhere, she’s bringing real “you’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole” energy.

Oh so she’s a TERF, too? That tracks…

Right, academia has a whole boatload of problems, but her proposed solutions are a non-starter for for anyone with a brain

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htb_n7ok9AU

Here’s her “Academia is Communism” video.

https://posthillpress.com/book/the-war-on-science-thirty-nine-renowned-scientists-and-scholars-speak-out-about-current-threats-to-free-speech-open-inquiry-and-the-scientific-process

Here’s where the pull quote she made for the War on Science book is listed.

From assaults on merit-based hiring to the policing of language and replacing well-established, disciplinary scholarship by ideological mantras, current science and scholarship is under threat throughout western institutions. As this group of prominent scholars ranging across many different disciplines and political leanings detail, the very future of free inquiry and scientific progress is at risk. Many who have spoken up against this threat have lost their positions, and a climate of fear has arisen that strikes at the heart of modern education and research. Banding together to finally speak out, this brave and unprecedented group of scholars issues a clarion call for change.

“Higher education isn’t what it used to be. Cancel Culture and DEI have caused many to keep their mouths shut. Not so the authors of this book. This collection of essays tells of threats to open inquiry, free speech, and the scientific process itself. A much-needed book.”

—Sabine Hossenfelder, Physicist and Author of Existential Physics: A Scientist’s Guide to Life’s Biggest Questions

And hey, Richard Dawkins was good at presenting science to people, too. Didn’t mean he wasn’t and isn’t also an asshole with some real stupid ideas like when he proposed we shouldn’t let children read fiction because they may not be able to tell the difference between reality and fantasy.

I mean, it sounds like she’s got some valid critiques in respect to her own field of study, but her offered solutions of privatization are pretty off the mark. She also really can’t speak for other fields of study but apparently feels comfortable doing so.

She’s bringing real “You’re not wrong, Walter. You’re just an asshole.” energy.

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/critical-thinking-general-science/sabine-hossenfelder-asks-if-science-dying-its-not

While the Trump regime eviscerates science, Sabine Hossenfelder, a German physicist by training turned science YouTuber, published a video whose thumbnail states in large red letters, “Academia is Communism.” And an upcoming book called The War on Science, written by a coalition of grievance-mongers including Lawrence Krauss, Peter Boghossian, and Gad Saad, received a glowing, official endorsement from Hossenfelder: “Higher education isn’t what it used to be,” she wrote. “Cancel Culture and DEI have caused many to keep their mouths shut. Not so the authors of this book.”

In her February video thumbnailed “Academia is Communism,” Hossenfelder argues that the defunding of academic research will probably happen, whether we want it or not, and she cites Elon Musk’s, Marc Andreessen’s, and Peter Thiel’s vilification of universities: that they’re bastions of communism and the enemies of progress, with their researchers essentially on government welfare. She expands on the arguments in favour of moving basic research to the private sector: that government grants tend to be short-lived while entrepreneurs plan for the long term; that serendipitous discoveries could still happen within companies; that silly research ideas would no longer be financed; and that private investors are better at taking risks than national funding bodies.

Yeah, she sounds like an absolute fuckwit to me.

You’ve got the throwing up communism as an evil canard and labeling Academia as communist, which if anything, Academia is corporatist and being twisted by corporations funneling money into flawed science. Yet, that’s literally what she supports, the privatization of science and having corporations have private ownership over scientific progress.

You’ve got the “cancel culture” and “DEI” canards that she claims is resulting in some form of self-censorship. Which is just a load of horseshit, come on.

This is exactly the kind of shit that leads idiot MAGA fucktards to distrust science entirely.

This bitch ain’t helping, sorry, not sorry.

Please, OP, I implore you to re-assess your view of this situation. Academia is far from perfect and has a lot of issues to be resolved, sure, but it is not communist by any stretch, nor is privatization of science in any way a fucking solution. That’s just handing the billionaires of the world the cyberpunk dystopia they so desperately want on a silver platter. If anything, science needs to be more open, not less.

I had never heard of this lady, and now I both regret hearing about her and also feel emboldened to tell people not to trust this fucking corporate dick sucking swine. I wonder how much corporations are paying her to push this swill against open research that’s publicly owned.

It’s wild this is posted in Linux Memes because she’s basically arguing for Microsoft and closed source here, by proxy.

EDIT: One final note

argues that the defunding of academic research will probably happen, whether we want it or not

Never obey in advance. That’s what she suggests we do here.

yeah but what if

then the labor class better fucking get their ass in gear and start fighting for their rights again.

I don’t usually say this but honestly if you are working at Oracle in 2025:

You deserve this. You’re working for pure evil. Be thankful you can now maybe get a job that doesn’t involve destroying humanity and democracy.

Probably more likely that they are against it as long as they can be targeted. They want to wait until they are in charge politically and can control it, and then they’ll be behind it so they can target their perceived enemies.

Pretty much how it went here in the USA. All the shit the right wing used to scream and rail against is everything they’re instituting now that they feel relatively sure they won’t have to let go of the power in the future. Once they get their tentacles in, they’ll turn on a dime and support it.

This is fucking amazing. I’m gonna go out and get a weed vape right now! I mean, for hosting a website on, yeah, that’s why, sure, let’s go with that.

Only mildly sarcastic, but even if you’re trying to be careful, you reveal a lot about yourself by making comments at all or interacting with a community at all. Your interests, your writing style, your browser footprint, etc. etc. It’s very difficult to not be truly unique if someone out there is purposefully tracking you as an individual. Depending on where the instance is hosted, they may be required to keep server logs and may further be required to divulge those to police for lawful investigations. “Lawful” obviously can vary widely in interpretation, depending on local corruption levels. I know that if I was of interest in an investigation it would not be hard at all to link me to my real identity, and I just sort of live with that.

We live in a nightmare dystopian hellscape where rights are made up and the laws don’t matter.

Fuck ain’t that the truth.

If I was going to do something illegal/disruptive enough to attract the attention of police, I simply would not attach my personal email to it.

Fair, but let’s be real, protesting the Copy City in Atlanta shouldn’t be something that captures police attention since it’s well within free speech rights. Literally, as it says in the article:

404 Media is not publishing the person’s name because they don’t appear to have been charged with a crime, according to searches of court databases.

This is merely an intimidation campaign against people who have valid concerns with the Cop City being built outside of Atlanta.

Broadly, members were protesting the building of a large police training center next to the Intrenchment Creek Park in Atlanta, and actions also included camping in the forest and lawsuits. Charges against more than 60 people have since been dropped.

The blog in question documents protest events that have happened, including ones that are law breaking. There is no proof that the person who runs the blog has any direct involvement with the events they cover, despite their political stripe supporting the same goal of dropping the contract to stop the funding and building of Cop City in the forest outside of Atlanta. Calling people to action to protest is not the same as calling them to commit crimes in protest.

Because while I agree with you, we need to be clear here. Legal protest and coverage of protest (including coverage of crimes done by individuals at a protest) are not crimes nor should those acts alone be enough to get the FBI on your ass.

Absolutely and it helped prove why they needed to do this security review to begin with as well as will teach them the nature of how this user script worked so they can put up guardrails for this specific type of attack. An unfortunate event but as long as they are using it to learn from and strengthen their security, overall it’s a good thing.

No, mine was some generic nonsense from Fred Mayer years ago that isn’t available anymore.

…am I really the only one who bought fucking metal straws with silicon tips and the tools to clean them years and years ago now?

This seems like a solved problem.