“Falsehood flies, and truth comes limping after it, so that when men come to be undeceived, it is too late; the jest is over, and the tale hath had its effect: […] like a physician, who hath found out an infallible medicine, after the patient is dead.” —Jonathan Swift

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  • OP, LLMs don’t “know” shit. When they say something that conforms to a preexisting bias of yours, that’s nothing. That should affect the strength of your argument in no capacity. It’s not a knowledge base; it’s a transformer model that exists to tell you what you’re most likely to want to hear given what’s come before.

    The part of the anti-AI crowd who denounce rampant, uncritical use of LLMs but who also shit their pants and clap every time an LLM says something against LLMs tells me they don’t have even a bare minimum understanding of machine learning or of cognitive biases like confirmation bias.

    (Your link results in an internal runtime error btw.)




  • OP, the site you’re linking to is LLM slop. Like seriously just look at this site for a second.

    • There’s zero consistent theme.
    • The images are generated.
    • They’re all “BY JOHN” (no pfp, no last name, no bio, let alone no indication why they’re qualified to write about this cornucopia of shit).
    • It only ever hyperlinks to itself – i.e. the sources may as well be “I made it the fuck up”.
    • The way the articles are structured are LLM slop to a tee – randomly bolding words, meandering prose, overuse of bullet points, jarring logical flow, etc.
    • At least five articles per day from the same “person” despite extensive length, perfect grammar, and alleged research being done.

    Can’t you please link to an actual source to make this claim?




  • Have you even been reading this thread? This is about the level of tech literacy kids get from using an OS for school, not about what you’re theoretically capable of doing. Yes, you’re right, root access on both macOS and Chrome OS would be locked out in a school setting. That makes your braindead argument a non-starter for this discussion. Even if what you said about the rooting difficulty were true (again, showed it isn’t), it could not possibly matter less here. And yes, I am going to say that official, step-by-step documentation that takes a few minutes at most to follow is easier than following some third-party website and then resetting your entire OS.

    Even in a situation where it’s not locked down, neckbeards like you and I are in the vanishingly small minority of users who ever touch root access; when we’re talking about generations of people being raised to be tech-illiterate, root access has fuck-all to do with that. Unless the OS is incentivizing average users to use root access enough that a sizable portion actually would (desktop Linux and nothing else), then a comparison of which OS gives easier root access couldn’t be less relevant when talking about an entire generation of kids.

    Here, Chrome OS is meaningfully much worse than OS X for teaching kids tech literacy on the grounds that the average user experience is dumbed down to hell. Meanwhile:

    Fuck Google and fuck Apple, stop defending them

    Literally where? I’ve done nothing but lambast Chrome OS this entire thread except to correctly point out that it has user-facing folders which you do often interact with. Apple? By correctly pointing out that the Apple desktop ecosystem is massively less dumbed-down than Chrome OS, I’m defending them? Dude, I use Linux and Android (the latter begrudgingly; locked bootloader) and would never purchase an Apple product again for the foreseeable future; next time, save your sweaty, mouth-foaming screed about Apple bad for when you actually find someone who likes and supports Apple.



    • The thing about root access is just objectively untrue. These are the steps to gain root access on macOS as provided by Apple. Meanwhile, I can find no official tutorial from Google, and more importantly, enabling developer mode wipes your Chromebook. I legitimately cannot imagine what on god’s green Earth you did to make the macOS process more painstaking than wiping your device.
    • Even if your premise weren’t demonstrably untrue, this isn’t a discussion about what you can theoretically do with a device; it’s about the kind of workflow the device would encourage for a typical student using it. In this regard, a Chromebook is massively dumbed down. Sure you might dip into the downloads folder, but Chrome OS by design encourages the use of web apps as much as humanly possible and severely restricts your ability and incentives to meaningfully interact with your OS outside of a browser.
    • Even assuming that the process of gaining root access mattered to this discussion (it categorically doesn’t), what you can and cannot do with that root access would matter far more, and in that unrelated discussion, macOS clearly still wins out (unless you’d want to argue that developer mode lets you install Linux, at which point this is no longer about Chrome OS).

  • I know it’s just an early mockup, but Calamares looks waaaay better than this, and I wouldn’t want to see this replace it in anything even close to this state. This is not slick.

    Though serviceable, [Calamares is] not as slick as the initial setup on Windows, macOS or even GNOME.

    Setup on Windows? Slick? Dude fuck, I do not want whatever vision this author wants for Linux if the minefield of dark patterns is “slick” to them. Calamares is the slickest, most straightforward OS install I’ve ever had, far surpassing Windows.