And even when it gets heated, people still seem to listen and not just performatively push agendas. Seen more "fair enough"s than in years of Reddit.

I see your point. Not sure about the portion of bad vs good, but I’ve seen both, for example about the drive by wire stuff. There was some genuine interest in the CT before we actually got to see how much of a POS it really was.

TBH, it’s gotten a lot of press, much more than most cars, ev’s or not. Much of it negative though, so not calling it hype is valid.

This! Make images, ask questions, use it to shitpost, whatever. Just spam the daylight out of it.

Apple TV most certainly collects information too…

Not really. Ads aren’t gonna dissappear, with Mozillas tech, they’d at least be more private than what Google will implement.