I wonder if you will get excoriated for this opinion, since I had to respond to people in my last post with an update because people were adamant that Firefox was open source. 😼

https://blog.mozilla.org/en/firefox/firefox-labs-fx138/

I wrote up what happened (more stuff on my blog).

TL;DR they use aggregated data for ads and they felt like they needed to have an explicit opt-in.

Wish I had seen your comments previously!

And then later I learned it was a cooperative effort, just not under the same name

Source?

They developed the “privacy sandbox” together.

Yeah that’s not true.

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The 2FA thing sounds like it’s all on the Dropbox side if you are just entering a code you got from an authenticator app. The Google login issue may be a real issue – did the Google login specifically work on another browser?

Uhh, that doesn’t seem normal at all. Is this a default config? Any extensions in use?

What are you a captcha?

“Vivaldi is closed source, therefore it’s harder for users to investigate”, which is clearly an inaccurate statement.

Why is it an inaccurate statement?

What user are you thinking of?

You really felt misled that it was harder to inspect? What makes you think I have the expertise to inspect this? I’m not even a user and I wouldn’t know where to start to find the ad blocker within that tarball. Would you?

In any case, I clarified why it was harder to inspect - to me it felt obvious that being closed source made it harder to investigate. The fact that it is also shared source really has no bearing to the general observation, especially since we’re talking about a 2GB tarball where I don’t even know where to start. And I’m a pretty technical person.

How would a user easily investigate this vs. an open source browser?

It is, it is just source available. Still closed source.

You’re awesome!

Who’s a bot?

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Opera GX has promised to keep MV2 in their code. So I’ll just keep using that until I see something different. The other thing is that Opera GX has built in ad-blocker which is pretty much on par with third parties.

I couldn’t find a source for either of these claims. Can you help me out?

Firefox can’t fix all the broken sites in the world, but they do investigate issues reported to https://webcompat.com

You can help by reporting sites that don’t work for you.

I’m asking you what the misinformation is. Is this harder to investigate because the software is closed source? In my mind undoubtedly yes. I know it was harder for ME to investigate because it wasn’t open source - no open issue trackers, SCM repository, whatever.

So please tell me why what I said was misinformation - I’m really curious.

But it is, because making users download a 2GB repo and looking through the code, or crafting custom filter rules to investigate how rules work is harder than looking at a hosted source code repository (like what Brave has).

Where is the misinformation?