• teft@piefed.social
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    2 days ago

    Does someone have an issue with Jay’Den? I think he’s a great klingon. And who says he’s gay? He might be bi/poly like his dads.

    Also his sexuality isn’t any more in your face than caleb and tarima and all their smooching.

    People will seriously complain about anything won’t they?

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      I really couldn’t care less about the whole gay aspect.

      However, in my personal head-canon Jay-Den’s sensitivity and fear of public speaking doesn’t quite line up with how I imagine the mind and emotions of a full-blood Klingon would work. I feel like every Klingon would have the instincts and emotions of a predator/hunter and I haven’t quite seen that in Jay-Den. To me the character would make more sense if he was only part Klingon, like Alexander.

      Then again, who’s to say to what extent stereotypical Klingon behaviour is defined culturally as opposed to genetically? I do think it’s interesting and refreshing to see a Klingon acting contrary to cultural norms and I do like the character. The only other Klingon character I can recall who wasn’t a full-blown warrior is that one scientist in TNG.

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        Everyone thinks all Orions are pirates but as Tendi said, “somebody had to build all the starships.”

        I’m more inclined to like a Klingon who’s just got a different personality than someone like Worf who never shut the hell up about Klingon tradition since he was always trying to prove he was a warrior.

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          I have a feeling that Worf never shut up because he was raised by humans, so he always felt like he had to prove himself as Klingon

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          I’m more inclined to like a Klingon who’s just got a different personality than someone like Worf who never shut the hell up about Klingon tradition since he was always trying to prove he was a warrior.

          We already had this in the “exchange program” ep of TNG, when Riker goes on the Klingon ship they aren’t acting like Worf, especially the “Klingons do not laugh” bullshit.

          It’s because Worf has a chip on his shoulder because of his human upbringing and his father not dying a warrior’s death

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            Guinan even specifically calls him out on that. “I’ve seen plenty of klingons laugh.” Feels like the only thing they do when the drink bloodwine is laugh and punch each other.

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        I feel like every Klingon would have the instincts and emotions of a predator/hunter and I haven’t quite seen that in Jay-Den.

        There was that one doctor klingon in Enterprise and also a lawyer klingon in a different episode of Enterprise. Not all klingons are hunters/predators. Some find honor in helping people.

        As for Alexander I think he was so timid for a klingon because of his upbringing, not from his 1/4 human part.

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      Didn’t you know? Everyone is straight, until they’re proven gay. And only women are allowed to be bi. /s