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      Only if the base assumption is that they’re all gay, and they only get kicked out if they tell us they’re straight, otherwise we aren’t asking.

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    That’s a lot of hard to replace talent. I don’t think anyone I’m the military will let him go through with this. How anyone can support this mong is beyond me.

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      Not something anyone can stop if he chooses to go through with it. He is the commander of the armed forces. He can make sweeping policies like this that fuck up everything.

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      He’s already working on purging military leadership so only Trump loyalists are left. If he orders a purge of trans people it will happen. Everyone saying “he can’t really do this” is still in living in hopeful dreams. Reality is that Trump will be in charge and surrounded by fanatical loyalists running all branches of government and the military. The dangers for his chosen scapegoats are real.

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    My immediate thought is that Klinger will be happy.

    Trump’s legacy will be long term damage to national security, rampant racism and discrimination, and widespread corruption.

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      His legacy was that after the first go round.

      This time it may be destroying democracy entirely.

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      I was once near to (but did not interact with) Jamie Farr maybe 10 years ago. It’s really hard to see him and not picture him in a dress.

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    It would be a good move for Biden to offer them honorable discharges now… it’ll be better than what they’ll get if they wait.

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      He won’t because he doesn’t care.

      Indeed, I’m surprised he doesn’t do it first to show the “moderate republicans” that he’s on their side.

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      I mean outside of America we are still going to all let this happen. We are all marching straight into WW3 like the “this is fine” meme.

      Should we survive as a species I look forward to 50 years from now where America adopts strong anti-facism laws like Germany has.

      Question is, who is the good guy in this new world we are entering?

      FWIW as a Canadian we are so fucked. America is going to come knocking for our resources soon and we won’t be able to say no.

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          Head between my legs and pray tbh lol

          I kinda look at it less like WW2 repeat but the fall of Rome.

          Either way we are screwed though. The emperor has no clothes.

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              Deep breaths and take things a day at a time. People have been through far worse even today. I was joking with my GF last night who is South African. This ain’t nothing compared to what she has been through as a Zulu woman.

              I know it’s not the best answer for you, but it is what it is. You either endure or you don’t. Me? I choose to endure.

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            You may want to consider getting involved with a local mutual aid group. The connections you make now will likely pay off in the future.

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    Then place them in internment camps. We know where this is going you damn Nazi.

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      I assume that’s the plan with RFK’s “wellness camps”. Define gender dysphoria as a qualifying mental illness, and send transgender folks there to replace migrant workers who have been deported.

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      He’s already completed the first step, by making them seem inhuman and criminal

      Which is ironic, because he’s the one who boasted about perving on kids

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    How many times in our history are Americans going to get duped into hating people they never even interact with and know nothing about?

    None of these people know trans people. These morons have just been conditioned to hate them regardless of not even knowing them. It’s pathetic. They’ve never been hurt, or even inconvenienced by a trans person. Bigot fucks.

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    Are there actually 15K trans soldiers in the army, or is this just another number that he pulled out of his ass?

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      Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population.[178][179] According to 2014 estimates from the Williams Institute on Sexual Orientation and Gender Identity Law and Public Policy, despite the ban on military service, about 21.4% of the total transgender population in the US is estimated to have served in the military. In May 2014, an estimated 15,500 transgender individuals served on active duty or in the Guard or Reserve forces.[22] Wikipedia

      So it’s a real number he just thinks military=army like the fake loser he is.

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        Apparently I vastly underestimated how many people are in the US military in general.

        Transgender people are significantly more likely to serve in the US military than the general US population

        That also surprises me.

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          Don’t folks get gender affirming / plastic surgery for free or something? I think I heard it was covered because it lets military surgeons get practice for when they go work for private sector after their bit

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            The military and the VA offer gender affirming care, and what they offer varies.

            For instance (I’m going off memory for active duty, I got out in 2017), if you’re active duty, I believe they’ll pay for everything so long as you lay out in your Transition Plan everything you want covered and your commanding officer approves it. You need “approval” to ensure that your absence during medical recovery won’t hinder mission readiness, so basically, if you’re about to be deployed in a month for 6 months, and you’re supposed to have gender affirming surgery tomorrow with a multi-month recovery, your surgery will likely be postponed.

            The VA, which is for veterans, covers a majority of gender affirming care, but they aren’t legally allowed to cover everything. GRS/SRS is the big on, the military will cover that I believe, but the VA cannot and will not.

            With Trump coming in, I have a feeling this is all going to go away, and they’re going to use a similar approach as the Federal Minimum Drinking Age Act to basically make LGBTQ+ healthcare illegal via withholding federal funding from those states who try to continue after a federal ban. “The states can choose their drinking age gender affirming care, but those who don’t follow the federal guidelines will lose access to XYZ federal funding.”

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            My first inclination would not be to join an organization that has a long and notorious history of testosterone fuelled bro culture.

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    An easy to get general discharge from the military? I think lots of people with years left to serve are going to enjoy leaving early with all of their benefits.

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        The VA, often criticized for consistently being over funded and helping disabled veterans live like kings. :/

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            Oh yeah, I’m glad it’s there and able to do what it can with the resources it’s given.

            I’m not a veteran but like many I have friends and family who served. It never ceases to amaze me how much support republicans in general and “suckers and losers, what was in it for them” Trump republicans in particular get from the armed forces.

            It would upset me, but then I remember that’s how they treat all their followers and the armed forces are just another job for the working class to fill. They practice equal opportunity contempt.

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      I have a feeling most of the benefits will be going out the door behind them shortly thereafter.

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        Yeah. He also wants to prevent using military healthcare for transgender care. So even if they could get VA benefits it wouldn’t help where trans people need it most.

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        I have to hope their contractually obligated to provide them. If not I’d look forward to the class action suite but then again the judges are openly corrupt. America is a clusterf*ck right now.

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          Fun fact, when you join you waive your right to sue the military. Might be able to sue the VA or parts of the government though.

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            That’s not actually true. It’s just very restricted, the contracts and laws around your service make it very hard. You can’t sue for things that are legal orders and you generally can’t sue specific people. You can absolutely sue the DoD for things like breach of contract. For example if you were processed out of active duty normally, on time and everything, and then were arrested for desertion a month later you would likely have a case against the DoD. It just has to be off the wall stuff like that.

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          Laws don’t matter to Orange Julius, I doubt contracts do either.

          I hope I’m wrong for a lot of people’s sake tho.