This has been bugging me of late so I’ll ask here even though FTR I hate that I agree with Trump:
Why don’t we just split the difference and offset by 30 min for the whole year/permanently?
I understand what you mean, BUT I live in AZ and Im not going to have AZ be both 30 minutes ahead of Cali, 30 minutes behind Utah, and an hour and 30 behind New Mexico. No, you all either fall in line with how time is supposed to work or you can keep doing your shitty Daylight Savings bullshit
I take it AZ doesn’t follow DST? I don’t see how springing ahead 30min instead of the hour next time and being done would cause that much of an issue
Im going to guess youre not from the US? Heres a Time Zone map with the States listed.
I got my own groupings of time zones a little twisted in my head, I didnt think New Mexico was Mountain Time. Regardless, Arizona and Hawaii dont follow DST. Shifting all the US states by 30 minutes for an arbitrary reason doesnt solve anything really and kind of just fucks with global time standards.
Because compromise makes neither side truly happy
We are already trying to compromise with switch back and forth.
30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
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Okay, I’ll choose, keep the sun up later. Make the day last till at least 7 PM in the winter. That way I can still see it after work. I don’t give a shit when I’m driving to work.
30 minutes just makes it over complicated and satisfies neither side
What would be complicated?
Uhhh…the rest of the world being 30 minutes + however many hours different?
Converting times to other timezones would be extra annoying.
It’s already too anoying to deal with.
Splitting the difference would be slightly easier, since it stops changing at arbitrary days of the year.It would still change at arbitrary days, because other countries will still use it.
God no. The math with timezones is painful enough without having to deal with half hour offsets.
Actually, there are some timezones with offsets of half or even quarter hours, but the company where I work in software engineering doesn’t do any business in those timezones, so I’ve never had to deal with that particular brand of madness.
Just get rid of DST. It was never a good idea. “Noon” should mean that the sun is directly overhead (or at least directly overhead east-west-wise if not north-south-wise) and “midnight” should be the midpoint between any two adjacent noons. (Ok, yes, if you live on the extreme eastern or western edge of a timezone, then at noon, the position of the sun may be up to 7.5° off of directly overhead east-west-wise. But yeah.)
Just adopt GMT and make time meaningless.
Nah, not GMT. UTC. It’s the more accurate successor, and all computers already use it.
Not to mention, everyone will always know what time you are talking about anywhere in the world, and based on your own experience, you know if it will be during the day or not.
Timezones will no longer matter, making software handling time so much easier.
I support this idea however it will never happen.People are going to want 9 am to be when the sun comes up.
Switching to a different 24 hour clock won’t help. People are use to 10 being when the sun is up and 23 when the night is happening.
Having everyone on one time zone would be the best thing ever.
For better reasons go here. https://savestandardtime.com/ @SaveStandard@universeodon.com
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They’re going to move it 30 mins to meet in the middle…
I mean it seems to work for India, Nepal, etc.
If they’re using the 2022 bill they’re already fucking it up. Kids are going to be walking to school in the dark in winter and get hit by cars because they want to pretend that we’re a few thousand miles east of where we actually are.
So maybe we could do the other thing that scientists have been saying, and make school start later. Obviously just one of the things that would need to be fixed, because school is currently a glorified daycare (because both parents are working, yay) and changing the times would fuck up parents’ lives.
Sure, but we should do that independent of this. Schools need to start at least an hour later on standard time. On DST they need to start two hours later at least.
It’s too confusing for him.
The far-right former brasilian president did the same
Finally something even the left can get behind.
This has been in talks for years already. This is not a Trump thing The Senate passed the act that would have removed it unanimously in 2022
With all this insane shit going on, it might actually end up having one benefit
It’s weird how I watched VEEP last year and here it is coming true.
This is one policy I would like to see followed through with.
To be specific, we make it such that the current daylight savings time is the norm.
Literally the only good idea he’s ever had.
It’s not even his idea, though. It’s been introduced by Marco Rubio 4 times, starting in 2018.
He also promised to legalize weed. He said the left would oppose it because it came from him. Then when everyone said yes please. Then we didn’t hear anything else about it.
In 2016 he promised universal Healthcare on accident when describing how he would fix Obamacare. Then we didn’t hear anything else about it.
He was quoted out of context. He wants to separately eliminate daylight, savings, and time.
Works on contingency? No, money down!
It’s funny because extending DST is the only productive thing W. did too
If he doesn’t, I’ll shoot him myself. Canada will probably come up with some other shitty excuse once they can’t say they do it for US trade any more though.
I don’t really like having clock shifts, but I will say that it’s less obnoxious in 2024 when most of my clocks update automatically.
In, say, 1990, it was an ongoing headache to have to manually fiddle all the timekeeping devices twice a year. Invariably, there’d be a timepiece or two that I’d forget about and not update until months later. Now I typically don’t even notice, just have one slightly-groggy day a year and one day a year when I wake up early.
I have that internal clock punishment thing going on. Since the last change I’ve been on time twice, and I probably won’t be on track until it changes back and ruins me again. I used to forcefully hack it by having energy drinks for a week or so but these days one or two of those and blood comes out. At least at my current job nobody will hassle me about my hours if I still get the work done, but I miss being able to maintain a schedule that makes sense.
Then there’s my animals. They will never understand and give me the look of “come on, this wasnt funny the last 5 years so why are you doing this again?”
This sucks because it means he absolutely definitely will not do this.
It’s just two weeks away bro, I swear
Based
Probably the only good thing he’d ever do, look forward to seeing how they fuck it up.
If I remember correctly, the issue last time is that they wanted us on permanent Daylight Savings Time, instead of Standard Time. So I expect Trump to force the U.S. onto permanent DST, just because all science says it would be worse for us than going to Standard.
I hate Trump as much as the next guy, but I want permanent DST. I want it to be light when I get home so I can spend some time outside without a flashlight. I don’t care if it’s dark in the morning, I’m working. Don’t tell me to just work different hours, I already work 6am-3pm, which is the earliest I’m allowed at my current job, and a lot earlier than allowed by many jobs. I still only get about an hour before dark where I live.
Sunrise here 10:20 and sunset 12:30. Darkness is our fren
Darkness is our fren
Have they come to talk with you again?
Yes, because a vision softly creeping left its seeds while I was sleeping.
Fuck that. Clock noon and solar noon need to diverge less, not more.
How is it worse? I want permanent DST so bad
Standard time is better for health, someone maybe a better argument for it in some other thread
Ah an argument, well I guess it’s settled then and it won’t ever be worse than the other way around
Broken clock.
Twice a year?
