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    Rob Schneider. The SNL guy that had one character, then moved on to being remembered as “The Stapler” on South Park.

    What an inspiration.

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      I started Googling “Rob Schneider” and Google autocompleted “herp de derp” after that.

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        I thought you were referring to how much he has to punch up, cuz he’s such a a scumbag(expanding on my joke). But looking at your account history… Wtf why are you even bothering?

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        I mean, by many measures Alex Jones is more accomplished than me, but I’m very happy to be where I am instead of being Alex Jones.

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            Lets just cut all the way to the end and “Godwin’s law” for this.

            Adolph Hitler is “more accomplished” than me, but I have zero desire to accomplish what he did. So I’m not sure “more accomplished” is really a good measure to try to aspire to.

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        The guy that’s been riding Adam Sandler’s coattails for 34 years? Oh yeah, he’s super accomplished.

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        I wouldn’t want his list of accomplishments. And I say that as someone who didn’t end up a major success at standup. If I had to be hateful to be successful, I wouldn’t take that bargain.

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    • “Schneider is a known transphobe and anti-vaxxer”
    • “a Canadian medical nonprofit”
    • 🤨
    • just how many red flags did they ignore?
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      I wonder if this was a case of someone seeing a “big name” but being clueless about his history and thinking, “I recognize his name, must mean he’s popular.” Then they hired him without vetting because he had a recognizable name and they believed he was therefore popular and “cool”. I mean, I know who Rob Schneider is because I’ve heard his name get thrown around a lot, but I had no idea he was a bigoted piece of shit because I’ve never (knowingly) watched any of his movies, nor do I keep up with celebrity gossip.

      That said, it’s really stupid to hire people without vetting them in this day and age because people have become so insane and brainless that you have no clue what they might say when they get up on stage; but 10 years ago I could see you being able to get away with not vetting celebrities. As such, the person/people who approved him might have been +10 years out of touch and/or lazy.

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        Yeah to be fair I love a lot of movies he’s in and reading about this makes me so disappointed. I’m sure there’s other actors and celebrities that I would also be disappointed about too.

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        Trust me when I say that since this was in Saskatchewan, it’s likely nobody checked because it never even crossed their minds that they should.

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          Truth, Saskatchewan tends to echo a lot of the transphobic legislation of the States. They passed a law requiring parents to give consent to use requested pronouns in schools. The place isn’t what one would call “trans issue forward”. I could totally see some ass backwards planning committee thinking it would be great before belatedly remembering the sort of people who attend these sorts of charity events actually tend to be fairly empathetic to their fellow humans…

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      Noooo, I genuinely had no idea he was a pos. Man that sucks I liked his shitty movies and now I can’t watch them for a nostalgic feel any more :( I am legit bummed.

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      Yeah, I think Schneider is a dipshit and a bigot, but this one is on the organizers. Were they expecting “makin’ copieees” and shit?

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        Is what happens when you choose from “entertainers” list by sorting by “price - low to high”? Is this really a surprise when you shop from the clearance rack?

        Were these organizers looking at the list and saying “Hmm, Carrot Top is a bit too ‘high brow’ for our engagement. Who else do we have?”

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          They still could have taken five minutes to check him out on YouTube or just look him up on Wikipedia or something.

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      Imagine starring in a movie where your character is desperately trying to explain to loved ones that they’re trapped in the wrong body and don’t understand how to navigate this gender that they find themselves in and then come out in the other side being transgender. Like, he’s so media illiterate that he doesn’t empathize with his own characters. So then it was just hateful jokes the whole time, I guess. Dude stopped maturing at like 15.

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    Why can’t people just leave trans folks the fuck alone? Why are they all so obsessed? It’s really fucking weird and obnoxious.

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      I can understand if older people are confused by trans issues. That seems fair. I mean, just a few decades ago, people hardly even mentioned them unless they were making a joke.

      When it comes to hate, though, I’m with you. At the end of the day, these are still PEOPLE we’re talking about. If they’re doing something you don’t approve of, then just don’t do it yourself. It doesn’t get any easier than that. No hatred required.

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      Honestly I think it’s just because people are mean and want someone to bully and trans people aren’t quite as protected by society as other marginalized groups yet so they’re the easiest target. Plus probably from some people it’s fear that if other people are allowed to be who they are then they themselves might realize they aren’t the perfect little cis straight christian they want to be seen as.

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        My first thought in situations like this is that maybe he secretly wishes he were a she. It’s true just often enough that I think it’s worth considering as an option.

        And honestly, I don’t care if it’s true or not. If, whenever a public figure publicly tries to humiliate or demonize some minority group, public discourse immediately starts talking about whether said public figure secretly is, or wants to be, a member of said minority group, then it serves as a deterrent for others wanting to humiliate or demonize minority groups.

        A) You’re in the closet and don’t want people to know? Then don’t ridicule people who came out of the closet.

        B) Oh, you’re not in the closet and don’t want people to think you are? What a coincidence. Also, don’t ridicule people who came out of the closet.

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          While what you’re saying comes from the right place, it can also be dangerous. That attitude/idea can lead to blaming the marginalized group for their own victimhood.

          I do think it’s more common for gay than trans, and sometimes has a grain of truth. But much of the time people are just assholes looking for someone to bully and hate.

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            That attitude/idea can lead to blaming the marginalized group for their own victimhood.

            Probably a dumb question, but how so?

            I just see it as beating the bully with their own stick. I can’t imagine how anyone would see that and conclude that the bully’s victims are somehow to blame. Probably lack of imagination on my part, so help me out.

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              I think the way you applied it showed some nuance, as you talked about it in non-absolute terms. However, when applied broadly it can be harmful.

              If we always assume that homophobes and transphobes are queer and trans, then we assume that queer and trans folx are the ones hurting themselves. It’s a small jump from there to say that closted lgbtq people are the source of lgbtq people’s trauma, which is both harmful and false.

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                Too many times some shitty person that blamed gays for everything and wanted to rule against them ended up “by mistake” in some party with a dick in his ass.

                That doesn’t mean there aren’t actual bastards that hate anything they don’t understand.

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      Seriously. Like, okay, you think that the whole transgender thing is a fad, or “attention-seeking,” or any other nonsense. Everybody is entitled to opinions, even stupid ones. I guarantee I have some stupid opinions, myself, about things that have no relevance to me.

      But feeling the need to express those opinions, and feeling so strongly about it, and wanting to make legislation for it, and pretending you give two shits about girls’ and womens’ sports when 5 years ago you were talking shit about the WNBA because they were a joke to you, when you will knowingly interact with a trans person once or twice in a year, maybe, in your little podunk town, and since you are talking to them you won’t have an opportunity to use a pronoun for them… well there’s obviously something else at work here.

      It makes it clear it’s just an excuse to hate, because trans people don’t affect them in the slightest.

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        It’s funny. Every time I see someone going on a rant about trans women in women’s sports, I ask them when they started watching women’s sports. I don’t get a response, but I do get a bunch of downvotes. Even on Lemmy.

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          The people complaining about trans in women’s sports don’t watch women’s sports for the sports.

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            Pretty much, which is why they don’t watch women’s sports except things like beach volleyball.

            They tend not to be big WNBA fans.

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                And would you throw a shit fit if a trans woman played on a women’s hockey team? Because those are the people I’m talking about.

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                  My son started playing hockey when we was 5. There were an essentially equal number of girls and boys across the teams in our league with many hundreds of players across all the teams in all of the associations in the league. As they got older the number of girls started to drop off. Through U13 and into U15 the boys went through puberty and on average got bigger, stronger, faster, and more aggressive. In U15 we were down to 3 girls on our team. Going in to U18 we will have one. Some of the girls lost interest in hockey. Some left because they couldn’t compete at the same level as the boys. Our best girls went on to play girl’s hockey where they would have a more even playing field playing against other girls.

                  No, I don’t, “throw a shitfit” when I see a male athlete playing against female athletes (and frankly, labeling anyone who doesn’t agree with you as, “throwing a shitfit” completely devalues your position) but I do understand why those female athletes who choose to play female sports because they want a more even playing field and to play against other female athletes might see it as unfair to be forced to compete against a male athlete.

                  I absolutely believe in social equality for everyone but identifying as a woman socially and being female are two very different things.

                  (I’m happy to discuss this but if you start hissing and spitting about my being a TERF or a transphobe I will ignore you and block you and never give you or your opinions another thought.)

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      It’s a wedge issue. That’s all that matters to them.

      First, they don’t give a fuck about those people.

      Second, intentional vagueness that can be weaponized. Be as heinous as humanly possible to keep the base talking about it.

      Third, exaggerate issues that moderates care about like bathrooms, sports, and regretted transitions.

      Fourth, ideally for them, the left will talk about all the heinous shit and not address the actual discussions.

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          Class warfare, basically. These “wedge issues” are used to distract and break solidarity within the working class so that the elites can continue to exploit them.

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    I’ll never forgive Adam Sandler for keeping Rob Schneider vaguely relevant by letting him ride his coattails for the last 30 years. “Makin’ coppppieeesss” stfu you bigoted hack.

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    Lmao did they have no idea who he was when they booked him? Did someone hire him as a joke? I don’t get why he was even there.

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      There are a quite a lot of nursing and medical admin staff in healthcare who are rabidly antivax. At least in America, so I assume it’s at least partially true in Canada to. I wonder if that had something to do with this clearly terrible pairing of organization and washed-up clown ‘comedian’.

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        Or… the crowd is soft and cant handle basic critique from a comic. Would you guys be foaming at the mouth is a comic made fun of christians at christian event, and everyone booed? The answer is no, you would be saying how weak the christian were.

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          Any community can be criticized, but the criticism should be coming from within. Eddie Izzard can make trans jokes, but Rob Schneider doesn’t have an interesting perspective to share. When Ricky Gervais roasted the audience of the 2020 Golden Globes, he did it as a fresh insider.

          Would you guys be foaming at the mouth is a comic made fun of christians at christian event, and everyone booed? The answer is no, you would be saying how weak the christian were.

          Who’s “foaming at the mouth”? I’m cringing at how lame Rob Schneider is. I don’t want to be in the same room as him because I’ll get second hand embarrassment.

          Outsiders always have the most basic, over spoken take on shit. If you want a non political example, take every comedian who flies into to NJ to do a show in NYC and decides to make a joke about how bad NJ smells. While it true that they did smell something bad on the ride in, but that’s hardly representative of NJ.

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                Agreed! And that makes you lame, boring, and illogical.

                Just dont you dare ever make a joke about a religion you dont belong to, that would be super bad.

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                  dont you dare ever make a joke about a religion you dont belong to

                  You’re right. Child molestation isn’t a laughing matter. Hard mode, figure out which one I’m referring to.

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                  Are you suggesting religion and being trans are the same thing?

                  Because that means you either think both are inherent or both are a choice. So which is it?

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        Sure, if they were done in a way that was actually funny to a reasonable person. If statements are just insults then they were never jokes, the problem is that you guys dont even allow people to make fun of particular groups, you start clutching your pearls and gasping. You guys went from the cool guy in the 90s to being super lame.

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          What sort of “reasonable person” would find a white person telling jokes that use that word unless the joke criticized the word funny?

          Which “cool guy” comedians in the 90s told such jokes? Can you name them?

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            Here is an example

            Trans jokes were not relevant in the 90s. What I am talking about is how in the 90s the general left side was the side that was funny and would tell any joke and the right was the more religious and pearl clutching, now the sides have reversed and you guys the are lame ones.

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              Your example is a joke talking about how it’s a racist word. Which is not what I asked you to show me. Also, that video was from 8 years ago, not the 90s. So how does that support your point?

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                That is an example of the joke being funny when teh n word is used. And yes, the aspect of the N word being racist would be central role for when it would be used in a joke. That guy did it in a hilarious way and I defend his use of it to answer your first comment.

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                  This is what I said:

                  What sort of “reasonable person” would find a white person telling jokes that use that word unless the joke criticized the word funny?

                  And then you provided me a joke (again, not from the 90s like you were talking about) which criticized the word. So I think you proved my point. Racist jokes aren’t funny and neither are other bigoted jokes.

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      Are you kidding? It’s a comedian’s job to read the room and tell when their set isn’t landing for shit and change tactics on the fly. Maybe he’s got his own shit niche but he should learn the basics of tact if he wants gigs.

      It’s not the audience’s fault when a comedian bombs. It’s his own damn fool self.

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        I see a headline, I dont know if it was a real boo, or a “boo” according to the article writer.

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          Hospitals of Regina Foundation issued a “sincere and unconditional apology” for Scheinder’s comments during his set, which occurred at their Four Seasons Ball. Attendee Tynan Allen told the CBC that “it was just very apparent how uncomfortable everyone felt and how unacceptable the things he was talking about were.”

          Maybe read the article along with the headline.

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              Your previous comment:

              I see a headline, I dont know if it was a real boo, or a “boo” according to the article writer.

              The article you didn’t read along with the thing I just quoted that you apparently also didn’t read:

              Attendee Tynan Allen told the CBC that “it was just very apparent how uncomfortable everyone felt and how unacceptable the things he was talking about were.”

              It sounds more like you don’t want people to have found him offensive. But they clearly did.

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                You believe everything you read as long as it agrees with you, dont you? There is a news article(s), so they appologized, has happened literally thousands of times, and then there is a quote from a person claiming a thing, literally has happened millions of times. Show me the clip and that is actually a useful thing, artles are literally useless.

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                  You believe everything you read as long as it agrees with you, dont you

                  Nope. Here’s me admitting I was wrong about something earlier today:

                  https://lemmy.world/comment/10510117

                  And there are, I am sure, Rob Schneider routines on YouTube and I doubt he decided to only tell trans and antivax jokes on this occasion, so you’re free to find out for yourself. I have a feeling you’ll decide they aren’t offensive no matter what they are though.

                  Incidentally, even Republicans find him too offensive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMxbyf5I_GE

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    I didn’t even need to know he is a bigot to know he sucks, because he has sucked for a long, long, looooooong time.

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    The first rule of comedy is, “Know your audience.”

    It’s clear he did this for some other reason. I’m assuming he is just starved for attention.