• xyro@morbier.foo
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    I’m flabbergasted, this is insane. Why wouldn’t China invade Taiwan now ?

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      China isn’t AS imperial as the US or Russia. They’re focused on domestic issues and spiking the price of consumer electronics by bombing fabs and spiking the price of everything else through western sanctions is not good for the domestic economy.

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      Why wouldn’t China invade Taiwan yesterday? Cheap justifications are a dime a dozen, allied fleets of over a hundred ships next door ready to respond to an invasion on a dime are not.

        • I’m Chinese American, my entire family was born in China including myself.

          My parents really want me to have children. And I mean now I kinda do too, but like I actually want to create life that have the positive childhood I had… but minus the bad parts (my parents were sometimes emotionally abusive, I certainly will not do that if I ever have children). But like when I was a teen, before I really thought about it, but my mom really pushed for it. She really want grandchildren. I mean she probably will have grandchildren, but I’ll have to limit their exposure to my mom… she could get toxic (sometimes, not always)… I know my maternal grandmother said awful things to me, I wouldn’t want my parents to do that to my kids.

          I can’t speak for every Chinese person, idk about mainland China nowadays, but my mother really want bloodline to go on. I mean… she literally violated the One Child Policy to have me… she said she wanted my older brother to have someone to play with… (lol our relationship is kinda hostile now, cold-war like), and I feel like its the bloodline thing… if my brother dies, I could still carry on the blood, so its 2x more likely she’d have grandchildren basically, I’m sort of a “backup” in her eyes (she didn’t say it, but this is how I feel tbh). I had an experience when I ran away from home when I was like 6, and later I asked my mom how she’d feel if I got kidnapped, she said she’d just move on and focus on my older brother… like… bruh…

          Cuz she’d still have a chance to continue the bloodline so she didn’t care if one of her kids went missing (she didn’t say this part, but I’m just assuming from what she said)

          She tells me she loves me very often… but honestly idk, I’m kinda skeptical.

          So TLDR: Many Chinese people do care. I was born around the 2000s and my parents certainly cares. I’m like military age now, those in the PLA were probably born around the same era as I did, I’m pretty sure the parents of the soldiers in the PLA would have the same mindset as my parents, they’re same generation I mean, but again, I’m not there anymore so I can’t say for certain.

          Edit: Oh yea btw apparantly, my older brother is planning to go back to China for marriage and then bring them over here in the US. Because my mom is constantly urging him to get married and she used WeChat to contact her network of people to help find a potential match… so… yea… there’s that… arranged marriage sort of stuff.

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            I asked my mom how she’d feel if I got kidnapped, she said she’d just move on and focus on my older brother…

            That’s so awful your own parent said that to you, that’s so fucked up. No kid deserves that.

            I’m sorry you went through that, it’s not right.

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        The United States has negotiated “Pax Silica” so that it doesn’t need Taiwan for chips…

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          You can’t magically mass produce a significant fraction of the 2nm chips you will need in two years just by “negotiating”. These things take decades to plan, build, train.

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      Why would China need to invade Taiwan? They assert that Taiwan is already a part of China. That would be like the US invading Kentucky. Right? Or is Taiwan a different country from China?

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        Two differences in your analogy.

        1. Kentucky agrees that it is part of the US. Taiwan does not believe they are part of China.

        2. The rest of the world agrees with the US that Kentucky is part of the US. The rest of the world does not agree that Taiwan is part of China.

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            That’s exactly why he is invading Venezuela.

            The courts have been holding him back from deploying national guard - let alone active-duty troops - domestically. He’s got ICE, but he wants more. He wants to declare martial law. He wants troops in the cities. Active-duty, Federal troops, not weekend warriors. The courts say he can’t do that without the Alien Enemies act, and they say he can’t invoke that act without a war.

            So we have a war.

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          1. Taiwan’s constition states that they are a part of mainland China. Their position is that the ROC and not the PRC are the rightful government.
          2. 142 or so countries agree that the PRC is the rightful government of Taiwan. 12 recognize the ROC. And, importantly, 50 or so, including the US, acknowledges the claim that the PRC is making without agreeing or disagreeing with it.
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          Taiwan does consider itself China. In fact, declaring they’re not might verywellbe the trigger for the invasion. I get that they’re de facto two separate countries, but de jure, PRC and ROC are two sides of the world’s longest and coldest civil war.

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        I guess they would just kidnap, I mean “capture”, the president of Taiwan to be charged in their courts. No need to invade, it’s just “law enforcement” without a warrant like what Trump is doing now.

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        Yes, the PRC claims that there is one country and Taiwan is a part of it. They also know that a seperatist group maintains control of Taiwan. If the confederacy lost all but Kentucky in the civil war, the US would still need to regsin control by military means. I’m not sure it would be called an invasion though.

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          You have got it backwards. The correct analogy would be if the Confederacy won the Civil War by conquering all of the states in the Union except for Rhode Island, but then later claimed that it was actually Rhode Island that was the separatist group and demanded that everyone in the world agree with this.