Summary

Following Donald Trump’s recent election victory, Google searches for “4B,” a South Korean feminist movement advocating a “no sex, no dating, no marriage, no children” stance, surged in the U.S.

The 4B movement, popular among young women on social media, promotes individual resistance against conservative politics and the erosion of reproductive rights.

The trend reflects a broader ideological divide between young men and women in the U.S., where women under 30 are significantly more liberal than men.

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    10 months ago

    Man here, I fully agree with this.

    I have been hoping for something to bring down the birthrate of the states that restrict abortion since the restrictions started.

    I had been hoping for mass migration of 50% or so of all women from the relevant states, but I see how that can be difficult.

    I truly hope that they are successful in gaining their rights back.

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      10 months ago

      My only holdup is that I fear this would result in increased sexual assaults. I think the messaging is great, but fear for the collateral.

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        10 months ago

        Okay so we beat the shit out of sexual assaulters in the streets. One problem at a time, baby. The men are at fault here, we don’t blame women for being sexually assaulted for withholding sex. That’s some “she was asking for it with the way she was dressed” shit.

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          That’s some “she was asking for it with the way she was dressed” shit.

          Or more like “she was asking for it simply for existing”

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    4B is doable! My wife and I haven’t had sex in 3 years and we sort of like each other.

    Just imagine not actually liking anyone at all, easy!

    For everything else, there’s pornhub.

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          For the planet! We should have National Pornstars. Additionally, National Pornstar Social Security to provide for our loved pornstars after they retire or if they sustain health issues regardless of their origin…like if they have a fall from a ladder vs herpes rash, all covered. They give us sexual gratification and bring stability to the world. The least we can do is to take good care of them and all their arousing features and bodyparts.

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            10 months ago

            It’s fine, the president-elect is standing by to pay an out of court settlement to each and every porn star.

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    10 months ago

    Typical media BS.

    Found a story about a very small movement somewhere in the world than are blowing it out of proportion and saying this is actually a thing.

    This is why Dems lost the election but the media thought they would win.

    Fucking click bait sex sells story.

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    10 months ago

    But the large swatch of incel’s that voted for Trump aren’t going to be affect by this.

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    The first time you say no to someone you really want to be with, that is when the 4B life starts. Till then, it’s just business as usual (I really hope you don’t sleep with/date people you don’t like!).

    The life continues when you see them with someone else, and realise some things can’t be undone. People move on, they’re not static NPC’s you can just reload and date later.

    It goes ever on, life stops for no-one and it runs it’s course far too soon. To those who choose that path, make sure you know where it leads.

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      No judgement, just curious, but is the idea here that conservative men should not be allowed to have sex since they don’t respect women? All for it, agree 100%. But i have a hard time imagining a feminist being with that type of man anyways, since the majority of feminist Ive met have self respect. So then you’re not sleeping with any men to punish them, and yourself, for conservative men? I feel like I’m missing something.

      Or is this article just implying 4B is something completly different than what it actually is? You know, cuz clickbait isn’t concerned with being factual…

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        I think, and here the key word is think as this goes beyond my mandate so to speak, it’s more an act of resistance. A bit like protesting, but with less risk.

        I’d say the aim is to rallying over retribution, to push those “good men” into fighting more strongly. It’s not a bad tactic, it’ll be interesting to see how it pans out.

        It’s also not really that widespread, searches for it are up because it’s making the rounds is all.

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    I say good for them. Go for it. Dating is too stressful for me anyway.

    But I’m also a 30+ progressive with a son and ex so I also recognize that there are bigger fish to fry than getting laid.

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    Ill believe it when I see it, half these women have the most conservative SO you’ve ever met and tells them they’re good people at the end of hard days. Also these particular women are transphobes, so fuck them.

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      Women also voted for trump.

      But Transphobes? Really? That’s where you draw the line? This is EXACTLY how the right pushed women to fight for their “identity” and turn against trans.

      If you generise them like that and try to diminish what biological woman is, you bet your ass someone will use it to turn those would would be your ally against you.

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    10 months ago

    OR…you could just have sex and start families with men who support women’s rights?

    I have a feeling this extremist “solution” is just disguised misandry from a bunch of extremist feminists.

    Ah well, thanks for selecting yourselves out of the gene pool, I guess?

    • whithom@discuss.onlineBanned
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      10 months ago

      It has been idiocracy for a long time now. I doubt this will make a dent in the diluted gene pool.

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      This ironically helps the right wing cause lol. Right wing men have sex anyway with right wing women, who are not interested in the 4b movement (and there are quite a lot of those, judging by how many voted for trump), so basically this ensure that the majority of future children’s will grow up in a right wing family/environment