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    9 months ago

    They also claim that they want more equality, universal healthcare, less student debt, etc. And then a ton of them proceeded to vote for Donald Trump. I can’t take anything they say seriously.

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      Exactly this. I suspect this group is both young enough to not have to supply their own insurance, or at least young enough to not have faced significant health costs yet. Many people have not yet experienced just how trash the US healthcare system is.

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    9 months ago

    I find it understandable. it isn’t something I would do but I can not find it in my heart to condemn the deletion of a bad human. The scumbags like him are a bunch of whiny little weaklings.

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    Americans have been trained to wish on the CEO the negative things that those CEOs have caused.

    Game CEO cancels or ruins an anticipated game? Wish on to them that something they value gets canceled.

    Car company CEO makes cars more expensive? Wish upon them financial trouble.

    Social media CEO invades your privacy? Wish on them someone to track their plane wherever it flies.

    But there exists a subset of companies where death is the outcome of a bad CEO, and the end consequence of encouraging an eye for an eye is what we just saw. Perhaps if a company can decide whether you live or die, the government should play some role in it. Then at least voters will at least have a stake in the governance.

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    Many of these polls are written in way to ellicit a biased response.

    Others have already covered how this works, but I’ll add to it anyway.

    If you ask a question like “do you condemn violence against healthcare CEOs?” A lot of people are going to say yes, because they view themselves as people against violence and respond mostly to that first part.

    If you ask "did brian thompson deserve to die for his crimes? Many of the same people will say yes to that too, because people have an innate desire for justice.

    Polls do this all the time. It’s part of social engineering and plays on the phenomenon that the Asch Conformity Experiments analyzed. Around 35% of people will change their opinions to fit everyone else’s even if the answer or opinion is very obviously incorrect.

    Don’t let them take the narrative back.

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      did brian thompson deserve to die for his crimes?

      The answer is no. Unless you are counting his drunk driving and insider trading. His business was operating legally, and he was providing legal orders when directing UHC to deny 30% or more of bills. And that’s the problem. Brian didn’t commit crimes, but the industry as a whole is insufficiently regulated, and should not be privatized, but they are so large and powerful that the general citizens cannot oust them. Denying any coverage and passing the bill on to the insured party should be illegal, but it isn’t.

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        Yeah, rich people get to operate legally with the laws they create. Who’da thunk?

        It’s a shame people like you still take every opportunity to sell yourself out so someone you’ll never know can be just a bit richer.

        I highly recommend you read up on the social contract, it looks like you haven’t reached that lesson in grade school yet.

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          Aww, someone didn’t have the attention span to wead da whole comment and now dey are super angwy about it…

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            Yeah, that’s about the response I’d expect from someone like you.

            Blocked.

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              Oh no, he’s threatening to hold his breath! What will I even do!?

              When you’re ready to talk like an adult, I’ll talk with you like an adult.

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      9 months ago

      “Do you think your house is too small”, vs “would you like a bigger house” … >> x% of people happy with size of their house

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        Selective selection of selected data by billionaire controlled media still can’t get below 41%

        It’s awesome how willfully they exclude or manipulate in attempt to soften the information.

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        I’m of two minds about it. Half the time, I want to build a statue of Luigi

        The other half of the time, I’m feeling the Tolkien quote, “many that live deserve death, and many that die deserve life. Will you give it to them?”

        In other words, at no point do I feel that Brian Robert Thompson didn’t objectively deserve to die. He is objectively doing more good for the world as worm food than he did as a living man. My only question is on the ethics of anyone actually killing him. On one hand, no one should have a right to make that call on their own. On the other, it’s not like he was ever going to face justice any other way.

        I wonder if this dilemma is reflected in this poll. You can believe that killing the CEO was unacceptable, while also believing he absolutely deserved it.

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          Well said.

          I don’t usually wish cancer on people, but if I had to choose, I’d probably have wanted him to go this way than by vigilante justice.

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    If this trend continues, by 2073 100% of youth will completely agree with it.

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    It’s a wake up call, but it’s not really going to change anything. You want universal healthcare? We need a general strike. Shut everything down for a month and demand it.

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      Rather then a general strike the perfect time to get it would have been voting for it in November. Even if everything shut down tomorrow, cities and towns burned, and people starved for months the GOP would spit on you.

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          If the DNC had a supermajority you can bet your ass we’d have single payer. We almost had it in 2010 but came up 1 vote short when an independent voted no alongside every single Republican.

          Republicans are so anti-public-healthcare that many of them want to gut medicaid, medicare, and often say things like supporting “Pure Privatization” and “get the government out of healthcare”.

          This is a clear partisan issue: DNC want it and GOP don’t want it.

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        If voting actually worked it would be illegal. It’s meaningless as long as the DNC Services Corp controls the controlled opposition party.

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          lmao why would they even play pretend? We’ve seen other places in the world like China and Russia don’t face any consequences for being opaquely authoritarian and single party.

          You’re basically saying that US Democracy is fake and that swapping policy stances every 4 to 8 years is a big act? Whats the payoff?

          I think we can vote to get all of the things we care about but people are too stupid and easily mislead to try it.

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    Yeah that is shocking. My guess is lots of people declined to say for obvious reasons. The number has to be closer to 80%

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      Neutrals are 19%, so even if we assume half of those are actually ok but didn’t say so, that’s still only 50,5% acceptance