Will people be able to make freedom of information requests for the interrogation footage?
He’s an ivy league kid with wealthy parents, he’s not talking to anyone, those people know to immediately lawyer up and keep your mouth shut
He apparently has a manifesto. Dude wants to talk about what he believes and is willing to kill over.
Certainly. Anyone can.
Oh I’m sorry, the cameras malfunctioned at the same time the NVR crashed and the redundant backup failed.
Because you want to see them plant the evidence or because you want to watch him get patted down?
Plant what evidence?
It looks like the guy was caught with the weapon and the fake ids used during his stay in NY.
Why is there so much talk about a fall guy? They have the guy, he has a manifesto. If the police had the gun and fake ids then they would have got them off the real guy so no need for a fall guy.
Looking at pictures of Luigi he looks like the dude in the other photos and I’m sure in time he’ll tell us why he did it.
There is no need for a conspiracy here, and frankly I find it baffling why you would think this is a frame up.
It was just a joke about there being a video of a handsone guy getting frisked. I don’t really think they planted evidence.
Because sometimes idiots will plant evidence on someone they legitimately believe is guilty, but don’t have the evidence to prove it.
Like, I don’t think it’s a stretch to say the majority of Americans know someone who has had that happen to them. I know everyone who knows me does, because it happened to me as a kid.
Sure, I did what the cops thought I did. But the only evidence was what one cop planted, so charges never went anywhere. But if I hadn’t been bailed out, I could have spent 6-12 months in jail waiting for the charges to be dropped.
This is reality.
So whether or not this specific one is a plant, you can’t just believe what cops say at face value. Even when they’re trying to “do the right thing” they can be corrupt. Lots of them just think the ends justify the means
I too have ben fucked over by the cops when I was younger, but come on. It’s a massive stretch to believe that they just pick some random guy and plant a murder weapon, fake ids and a manifesto.
Let’s say we buy into that argument. Where did they get the gun? The IDs? And who wrote the manifesto.
Not to mention the dude (Luigi) looks like the dude we seen in the CCTV images shown the last few days.
What is the benefit to finding a fall guy? It’s not going to stop someone else who is motivated to do the same to another CEO.
Regardless of your opinion on the suspect, taking cops at their word is fuckin stupid behavior. I don’t give a shit what kind of evidence they say they have until it’s scrutinized in court. The police lie for a living, it does not matter how high profile this case is.
It’s a massive stretch to believe that they just pick some random guy and plant a murder weapon, fake ids and a manifesto.
Not really.
It’s not “the murder weapon” it’s a basic bitch p80 and a silencer. Maybe it’s the murder weapon, we don’t know yet.
And a fake ID isn’t great evidence too, it doesn’t have his name, or maybe even his actual picture. It could have been found in the backpack, along with a manifesto.
Like, I’m not saying it’s a framejob, but you’re acting incredulous that anyone could believe this could be a frame-up. To me it’s less likely he’s just going to a random McDonald’s with all that stuff on him.
It’s certainly possible, even plausible. That’s different than saying it is, which seems to be the argument you’re trying to have.
What is the benefit to finding a fall guy? It’s not going to stop someone else who is motivated to do the same to another CEO.
Because the CEO was under DOJ investigation for insider trading and a civilian suit from shareholders because he didn’t let them know to sell when he did.
The CEO fucked over the rich, and blaming it on this would be an amazing frame up.
Because everyone wants the lie to be true.
Stop acting like real life is boring. Shits been crazy if you haven’t noticed
It’s a massive stretch to believe that they just pick some random guy and plant a murder weapon, fake ids and a manifesto.
It’s nothing they (The Cops) haven’t done before, and it wouldn’t be just any random person, it’ll be whoever looks closest to the images
Where did they get the gun? The IDs? And who wrote the manifesto.
They usually take what they need from evidence lockup
to mention the dude (Luigi) looks like the dude we seen in the CCTV images shown the last few days.
There’s a million people who “looks like” someone else, nearly every image was missing LARGE portions (but different) of the face
What is the benefit to finding a fall guy?
To save face, literally that’s it.
Luigi better shut the fuck up
Alright thats guy’s gonna get the most ripped statue ever
We can’t let the media take the narrative back and let them do a smear campaign on this person who might not even be the shooter. He’s a suspect.
This ceo shooting broke the proverbial spell where what the population was actually saying wasnt being being guided or swayed by the news.
We need to keep the steam up on the media pushback. All those savage, snarky comments left on every news article, fb post, tweet… they got overwhelmed by us. That needs to keep happening so they can’t go back to distracting and brainwashing people with fear and politics while they scapegoat this guy and try to make an example of him to the rest of us plebs.
They already tried to distract us with aliens and Diddy because people won’t stop saying how much they hate insurance companies. Keep voicing your discontent where ever they leave an open comment box. Please do it. Not only is it cathartic, but it upsets the oligarchs and everytime you upset an oligarch someone’s insurance is less likely to deny their claim.
Jury nullification occurs when a jury returns a Not Guilty verdict even though jurors believe beyond reasonable doubt that the defendant has broken the law. Because the Not Guilty verdict cannot be overturned, and because the jurors cannot be punished for their verdict, the law is said to be nullified in that particular case.
Looks like the dude had back pain, healthcare provier wouldnt pay to get it fixed so he took revenge.
To all the people who say he’s just a suspect, unfortunately they have good evidence against him, our only hope now is a jury of our peers.
Dreamy
God damn.
Bring me the Luigi crossover memes. Bring me them all.
He’s pretty cute! See if you can find a picture of his dad.
Why is I Did A Thing not wearing his apron?
Muad’ib lookin’ ass
Mama mia!
As someone said on another site: Cuty McShooty
Would
Were there other pictures circulating? I don’t get how they could recognise him instantly… or at all based off the pictures I’ve seen.
ITT conspiracy theories abound already.
Doesn’t look like remotely the same person as those photos
The guy had a bunch of fake IDs, and a gun with a silencer… kind of hard to brush that aside.
With how often police have been caught planting and otherwise tampering with evidence, and how embarrassing it would be to not catch the suspect, if Luigi said “it wasn’t me”, I might be inclined to believe him despite any amount of evidence suggesting otherwise
Well yeah, that’s why he’s considered a suspect, and assumed innocent until proven guilty in the court system. (That’s how it’s supposed to work anyway)
Not according to that health insurance company. In their statement they said that they hope the family finds relief in the apprehension. Basically calling him guilty.
The health insurance company has zero more insight into this than we do. Who gives a flying fuck what they say? There trying to shift the narrative back off their own crimes against humanity
The point I’m trying to make is that, given past police conduct and the current motivation to find the suspect would afford me reasonable doubt. Y’all remember George Floyd’s autopsy or the other million little CYA tricks they pull?
Police can state a lot of things. I’d like to hear all the evidence with proper chain-of-custody first.
A learnt commenter spotted.
Oh we have a fucking expert here.
Officer Tyler Frye, who has only been on the job for about six months, and a fellow officer responded to the McDonald’s where the suspect was spotted, the AP reports.
They asked him to pull his blue medical mask down and “recognized him immediately” Frye said. “We didn’t even think twice about it, we knew that was our guy.”
Frye said, “It feels good to get a guy like that off the street, especially starting my career this way, it feels great.”
Yeah… Great job. I’m sure your corporate overloads will appreciate it.
Upon further investigation, officers recovered a firearm on the man, as well as a suppressor, both consistent with the weapon used in the murder.
Ummm… That’s awfully convenient. He just happened to have brought that exact gun with its suppressor to McDonald’s. I’m skeptical.
From the video, it sounded like they searched his residence and found it there.
They must have planted it back on him.
Found in a lake, then planted and parallel constructed
How do you not throw the gun away before leaving the city?? The ID was apparently on him too
Exactly this. He pulls off the hit, escapes without a trace. But is somehow dumb enough to carry convicting evidence on him still while in a very public location?
Anyone would know to dump the evidence and lay low for a good while.
It was most likely actually in the backpack they found in Central Park
Toss that shit in a river and go back to your life like nothing happened.
Laying low and hiding just makes people suspicious. If the cops come looking and your work and friends haven’t seen you since the shooting, you look guilty as fuck.
Leave no trace and go back to your life. Looks way more plausible that you just took a mini vacation that way.
People online are saying he was expecting to get caught - Hence the YouTube video he released.
A real shame, his expectations lead to the outcome.
Ooh there’s a youtube video? First I’ve heard of this. Do you have a link handy?
channel it was uploaded onto https://web.archive.org/web/20241209203920/https://www.youtube.com/@PepMangione might be him, probably not him, although interestingly its now a 404 page.
also reupload by poser: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-6PSrcw1Jaw
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…or maybe the police just found their scapegoat
Really weird scapegoat - super connected and wealthy family from Maryland? 40k a year private school? Cousin that’s hardcore conservative and holds an elected office?
I’m honestly willing to believe him being dumb founded for the last week, fully expecting to have been caught and said fuck it, better me than someone innocent.
Everyone is asking these same questions…
Don’t forget, they basically found a long drawn out letter about how much dislike he has for CEOs - something along those lines.
We all know that just what you go around carrying after you pulled off a crime like that.
The suspect was at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pennsylvania and was recognized by an employee who then called local police.
I’m accusing parallel construction. The released photos have so little detail that there must be a hundred thousand Americans that match their appearance.
Someone did their Snowden reading:
Parallel construction is a law enforcement process of building a parallel, or separate, evidentiary basis for a criminal investigation in order to limit disclosure as to the origins of an investigation.
In the US, a particular form is evidence laundering, where one police officer obtains evidence via means that are in violation of the Fourth Amendment
De facto illegal and shady as hell, but in use when the (feds especially) want to catch someone, typically via warrantless SIGINT mass surveillance. They’ll do the investigation using dragnets and broad searches through metadata and other means that are illegal and inadmissible in court, then an incredibly convenient cop/witness/informant will appear with information that permits an arrest/search under permissible means - under the hole that the suspect has incriminating evidence.
This is wayyy too convenient to get him, with all the evidence on hand, from a ‘concerned citizen’. We live in a police state, that serves the ruling and moneyed class.
To be fair, the video of the shooter had the upper half of his face.
And the guy they arrested has the upper half of his face.
Although I have the upper half of my face.
Do you have the upper half of your face? If not we can probably rule you out.
I wonder if some hotshot lawyer might want to take his case as a challenge and help acquit him. Depending on the circumstances, he could have a chance. Might make for an interesting legal case study, at least.
Tbh, I hate that this poor kids life took this turn, and he felt the need to do this. I guarantee you that more than half the people he stood up for, won’t be standing up for him.
He’s from a very wealthy connected family that is well known in the area. His attorneys will be top tier
Uhhh “my client is fuckin’ rad” is not a legal defense.
Maybe not in the technical sense, but if the jury is on board they could absolutely use that as justification to implement jury nullification of a guilty verdict.
If a lawyer mentioned that in court it would be grounds for a mistrial.
You know, I think he would have been more rad if he had amassed enough wealth or resources to make a difference for things he cares about. Musk basically showed us that you can buy American democracy for $250M.
