The vehicle was parked directly outside the hotel doors.

A Cybertruck ‘blew up’ outside Trump’s hotel in Las Vegas

  • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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    8 months ago

    the fire was put out within an hour

    How does that work? I thought that with electrical car battery fires, you basically just had to spray water to keep it cool until it was done with what it wanted to do.

    • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Thats one option, but just because the battery caught fire doesn’t mean the entire battery pack is going to catch fire.

      There are fire walls in the battery, so if you get to it in time, you could cool it off and prevent a breach of the next firewall, and then the fire will be stopped when those existing cells use all their energy.

      Within an hour doesn’t seem unreasonable in that case if everything went right.

      • PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat
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        8 months ago

        I saw some gizmo that was supposed to go under the car, puncture the battery compartment from the bottom, and then flood the whole thing with water which was supposed to put the battery out. I couldn’t tell if it was bullshit or not, though.

    • psud@aussie.zone
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      8 months ago

      My guess is it wasn’t random, that the vehicle was intended to damage or destroy the building but it went off early and they didn’t count on the vehicle being so resistant

      It would have been pretty bad if it had been parked under the hotel and the battery had caught, but as it was the blast was directed up and into the cabin, and the fire was contained to the tray and the cabin leaving the battery safe

            • atzanteol@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              8 months ago

              More money does not mean better treatment per se. The standard of care is the same for rich and poor. He may be able to get more doctor opinions and have an easier time getting meds/etc. though.

              • psud@aussie.zone
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                8 months ago

                Per se is doing a lot of work there. Sure, if the rich person and the poor person chose the same insurance company and the company doesn’t deny coverage to the poor person (it doesn’t matter for the rich one, since they can afford it) they could get the same coverage if they have equal quality hospitals nearby and the rich person is happy to be treated by their nearest in network hospital

                But poor areas have worse hospitals

                And when the rich one is president of the united states that one also has a staff medical team, and access to military medical units, and a plane and helicopter on hand to move him

                Just regular rich have access to faster transport to better hospitals than the 99% can have

                But yeah, on paper, ignoring effects from socio economic status and where the 99% live versus where the 1% live, versus where the .001% live it’s all equal

                • atzanteol@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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                  8 months ago

                  “Oh, I see that you’re a rich - come with me to the executive wing of the hospital where we keep the cures”

                  No - the standard of care is not defined based on who or how much you have. You treat the same disease with the same treatment. Rich people can just afford treatments easier.

            • mister_flibble@lemm.ee
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              8 months ago

              Even the best health care is only as good as the patient’s willingness to listen to an expert. Unless there’s some poor intern being tasked with wrapping Donvict’s meds in cheese so he’ll swallow them, that might not matter.

            • AbidanYre@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              8 months ago

              He was almost defeated by a glass of water and a slight incline the last time he was president and his brain is pretty clearly Swiss cheese.

              Good healthcare has its limits.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    That entrance doesn’t even look 2nd rate, it looks more like a 3rd rate hotel.
    I thought Trump liked things to look expensive, but this looks like it’s built with the cheapest of the cheapest standard parts available.

    • kent_eh@lemmy.caEnglish
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      8 months ago

      this looks like it’s built with the cheapest of the cheapest standard parts available.

      That’s on brand for Trump. A thin veneer of flashiness hastily slapped onto a decaying carcass.

    • Boddhisatva@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      From another article…

      While some early Tesla models, including the Model S, were prone to spontaneously catch fire if they suffered underbody damage, it’s unlikely the Cybertruck, which has been recalled seven times since it went on sale in November 2023, was released with a similar flaw.

      Nah, no chance a cybertruck would have the same flaw. No chance at all, am I right?

      • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Well, it’s certainly a different beast. Being a pickup, the chassis is higher off the ground than other teslas. The problem with other teslas was insufficient armor on the underbody, so road debris could puncture through the vehicle and damage batteries. On a pickup there’s both more room for (essentially) an armor plate and any dentist would have to punch much higher up.

        All and all, these kinds of battery fires should be much less likely to occur on a truck than on a sedan.

        • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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          8 months ago

          The battery pack also has a substantial amount of room between the bottom and the cells. It was so much, that at first people thought that was room for the double stack battery they had originally planned, but it turned out to not be enough space, and is just there to vent gas if cells catch on fire, and more room before a puncture during offroading can reach a cell.

      • Revan343@lemmy.ca
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        8 months ago

        I mean yeah, it’s pretty unlikely, or we’d probably have seen more of these fires already.

        My money is on the owner doing/transporting something stupid. Stupider than buying a cybertruck, I mean

      • Buffalox@lemmy.world
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        8 months ago

        Probably even MORE likely, since these trucks are way less safety regulated than normal cars.

      • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io
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        8 months ago

        It has a whole new set of flaws that result in the same outcome.

        Saw one in daylight for the first time yesterday. They’re so big they don’t fit in Costco’s ridiculously oversized parking stalls.

          • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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            8 months ago

            Is that bad? (Actual question) I mean the f-150 is probably the most popular truck model ever. So I wouldn’t think it’s an unfavorable comparison.

            • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              I don’t think it’s bad that its smaller than a F150. People like to harp on it though as if it’s this massive monstrosity like OP without realizing it’s the size of the most popular truck. I see F150’s parked at Costco just fine all the time.

              Should all trucks be smaller? Sure, maybe, but I wouldn’t really hold the CT’s size against it. It’s also much shorter than other trucks at least at the front which is better for safety in general (even if you think the Cybertruck isn’t safe, being shorter is still safer). I’ve seen some trucks where their front flat grill is up to my neck. It’s kinda ridiculous.

              • Rhaedas@fedia.io
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                8 months ago

                It looked bigger, and given everything else about it the turn radius probably sucks too, so might as well be huge. I’d give credit if it was due, and was actually excited when Tesla first announced they’d do a truck…thinking of all the possibilities that everyone else thought. What we got was not that.

                • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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                  8 months ago

                  In case you would miss an edit…

                  Re: One of the best turning radius due to 4 wheel steering

                  Turning Circle from Motor Trend

                  F150 Lightning 48.0 ft

                  Rivian 44.9 ft

                  CT 43.5 ft

              • GiuseppeAndTheYeti@midwest.socialEnglish
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                8 months ago

                The being made of steel and featuring sharp angles makes the whole being lower is safer point moot. It would cut people in half if it hits them at speed.

          • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io
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            8 months ago

            F-150 has a turning radius of 27.3 feet, length of 232 inches, width of 80 inches. Hummer EV has a turning radius of 37 feet, length of 206 inches, width of 93.7 inches Rivian R1T has a turning radius of 22.3 feet, length of 217 inches width of 81.8

            Cybertruck has a turning radius of 43.5 feet, length of 231 inches, width of 77 inches.

            Okay, so the length “advantage” it has over the F-150 is roughly 0.4% of their length.

            It is very slightly thinner than its competition, but its turning radius is 18% larger than its nearest competitor, which is the absolutely massive Hummer EV

            In compairson to the f-150, it is 60% larger, and only has a bed capacity of 52.2 cubic feet(within the roller door) compared to the F150s 52.8 cubic feet.

            Cybertruck bed capacity made from calculating the area of the bed that fits inside the roller door and tailgate.

            • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world
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              8 months ago

              I think you might be mixing up units for the turning radius between the f150/rivian and the CT

              MotorTrend has the turning circle listed as

              F150 Lightning 48.0 ft

              Rivian 44.9 ft

              CT 43.5 ft

              Meanwhile the GM site says the Silverado EV is 42.16ft

              So your 2 numbers for F150/Rivian aren’t the same measurement as the CT 43.5

              Edit: Also the size comparison wasn’t about being an advatange or not, it was the person mocking the CT size when it was smaller than the countries best selling vehicle and favorite truck.

              Edit: And worth noting that the CT, Silverado and Hummer all have the better turning circles because of their 4 wheel steering. The hummer is 25 inches shorter, leading to its best score. The silverado is a couple inches longer, and has a tighter circle which is a nice job.

    • Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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      8 months ago

      Well, that is funny.

      However the battery didn’t explode, the truck bed was full of gasoline cans and fireworks.

      And the steel body of the truck bed actually did a great job of containing the explosion, focusing it mostly upward. The sheriff points out that the windows in the all glass front of that hotel weren’t even shattered because the blast was so well contained by the truck.

        • psud@aussie.zone
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          8 months ago

          People in teslas back when they did regularly catch fire from hitting road debris had no trouble pulling over and getting out before fire got into the cabin

          They don’t need electricity to open the doors, and owners should really tell passengers how to open the doors manually

          Search for whichever model’s user manual for your country if you want to see how to open the doors

          • xtr0n@sh.itjust.works
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            8 months ago

            Or, just hear me out, they could design the door so that people can intuitively figure out how to manually open the door in an emergency.

            • psud@aussie.zone
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              8 months ago

              When it’s not an emergency the button to open the door is nice, and it’s hardly ever an emergency. The manual opening is easy enough that knowing about it is enough

              • Snapz@lemmy.world
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                8 months ago

                “It’s hardly ever an emergency”

                Yeah, except for when it is… dipshit.

                I’d like to introduce you, for the very first time it seems, to the inherent nature of emergencies in general. Sorry the adults in your life all failed you (as us in turn)

                • psud@aussie.zone
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                  8 months ago

                  Unmarked jokes about teslas don’t seem to perform well here

                  I actually own a Tesla 3 which has (like all 3s) no emergency release in the back, so I added glass breaking hammers both sides

                  I do understand that emergency actions need to both easy and trained so a pull string in the door pocket isn’t nearly as good as a handle and even better you don’t need to tell every passenger how to get out when it’s a lever rather than a button

    • jonne@infosec.pub
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      8 months ago

      Or the truck bed. Definitely doesn’t look like a standard battery fire. Either it was a really bad fireworks accident, or the driver just filled the bed with explosives and rigged it to blow. I guess we’ll know soon enough.

    • TheWeirdestCunt@lemm.eeEnglish
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      8 months ago

      looks more like the explosion happened underneath and then went upwards through the rear of the truck, the first frame of it shows that the underside is engulfed before any of the windows even have a hint of a flame showing through them. Seems more like a dodgy battery blew up.

  • Fedizen@lemmy.world
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    8 months ago

    Says a lot that like nobody knew what to make of it until the propane tanks were found.

    Its still unclear if the driver intended for it to explode or if somebody tossed a bunch of flammables in the back and the truck lit it.

    • hansolo@lemm.eeEnglish
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      8 months ago

      Thinking this through, they probably filled the car with gas until they couldn’t breathe and then hit the firework mortar to set it all off. Also gives them a higher chance of ending it all then, as opposed to the “oops, all fire!” version, which would have been a lingering way to go.